What to expect from +Live+..., now that Ed is back Options

[SecretInsomnia]

http://www.fansoflive.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5339

Don't know how many songs he wrote, but may they become LIVE-tunes?

[throwing_cheetahs]

Here's your options Live fans:

A. Live returns with Ed, tour and new album (good album? bad album? - We'll wait and see).

B. Live probably retires and we never get a new Live album ever again.

Option A is the only way i see Live continuing.
We all want new Live, i'm sure no one here would honestly pick option B.


This post has been edited by throwing_cheetahs: Nov 19 2016, 10:58 am

[mfitz804]

Here's your options Live fans:

A. Live returns with Ed, tour and new album (good album? bad album? - We'll wait and see).

B. Live probably retires and we never get a new Live album ever again.

Option A is the only way i see Live continuing.
We all want new Live, i'm sure no one here would honestly pick option B.

If you picked B, you should go sign up for Justin Bieber's message board.

[World Dreamer]

You're right. Shinn had a bigger impact so if you didn't like him and his impact your preference would probably be to keep Ralio over Shinn.

It's like Trump. He has a following and he has people who despise him. Now he is our leader. In Live / Shinn philosophy that now would mean that everyone MUST love him because he leads the band .... I mean country.

Shinn fans remind me in a way of Trump supporters. You can't force people to respect or love something they dislike. Both Trump and Shinn supporters fail to see why anyone would dislike their man. To them Shinn was "Make Live Great Again".

They are very different things and situations but the philosophy of their supporters is the same.

LOL - what a bad, awful post.

[mfitz804]

http://www.fansoflive.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5339

Don't know how many songs he wrote, but may they become LIVE-tunes?

I would imagine not, but I guess it's possible. I wouldn't rule out Ed still releasing a 3rd solo album despite the reunion.

[Badman]

Here are my predictions for what happens:

1) The website comes online when they are ready to announce a 2017 tour. It will be a conservative tour, mostly in the Northeast. I could see them starting in Pennsylvania. Many of us will bitch (myself included) that they aren't coming to the midwest or west coast. I think the band won't want to overpromise.

2) I don't think they've been making happy with the reunion for very long. If being a live fan has taught me anything, it's that waiting is the name of the game. I think any updates will be slow going.

3) They will experiment with new music over 2017. No album will be released, but they will jam. It all depends on if everyone can get along.

4) The tour will mostly feature the old stuff. SFMB or the Turn won't be heard of again.

5) I am optimistic they will get the old fan club up for 2017 for the Christmas gift.

[Bremang]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZqT0stibWs

[Fool_By_The_River]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZqT0stibWs

This is the energy i expect from new LIVE, well, something along these lines.

[Merica]

It's hard to look back positively on Believe because although it seemed a step forward at the time (musically anyway), it turned into Honest Man - which showed you what was possible if you had someone good in charge of the lyrics again.

So on the one hand, yeah, I hope it's this kind of thing as opposed to Ed's solo poprock or the lounge act of SFBM, but I want better from Ed. Back then we had this and Forever which seemed a better direction - but now in the face of having had TGF and The Turn that level would be far from good enough.

Also, CT's solo sounds terrible there.

[+Ed+]

It was a giant leap forward for those times.

I was so impressed with the HM riff back then, that I hardly paid any attention to the text itself.

Still consider it one of the best riffs ever.

[vivapokey]

Believe is a perfect example of what I'm afraid Live will do now. At the time, as Merica said, it was looked at like a big step forward. Mostly because for so long CCP had been out of the writing process. Here there influence was clearly heard, and verified when it carried on to become the superior Honest Man. Believe was acceptable at the time because at least they were showing something. But then there was Ed. Those lyrics and voice over Believe were just awful. Ok so we only have a bad recording, so, that doesn't help his case, but the lyrics are dire. But still, at the time, it was a step forward from the Forever's, River's and Love Shines, because of the music.

Now we have had 2 CCP written albums since then, and superior vocalists and lyricists step in. So now, something like Believe wouldn't cut it for me anymore. But, its probably the closest I could point to as to what Live might sound like going forward. Perfectly good music, ruined by awful 3rd grader lyrics and hammy vocals. But hey, maybe with CCP working with KM and CS they will demand more from Ed in those areas. If they do, and if he can deliver then ... hey, something might sound alright!

[Hoodstock]

LOL - what a bad, awful post.

Following your example in another post of yours:

1. Please clearly explain why this is a bad post.
2. Please clearly identify what is awful about this post.

The analogy is spot on. I've read your posts since you've returned. Your unhappy with Ed. You like Shinn. Anyone hoping for something good needs to be corrected. All your posts are skewed in that direction. Your goal is to provide a negative vibe about a reunion. Very easy to see through.

When the time comes the music will speak for itself and everyone can decide for themselves.

[QuietRiverRage1]

Live aside, historically reunions tend to fizzle more often than they revive careers. I think this is my biggest concern with Live going forward.

My guess is that you will see a tour and an album. The tour will help Live find a passion and learn to gel again enough to write an album. The album will be the tricky part. It is going to be very difficult for Live to live up to the expectations of it's fan base, which is why it is important to keep an open mind. There is no doubt that an album can be very good, but I wouldn't go expecting to hear Throwing Copper Part 2 or Secret Samadhi resurrected. Instead, I would expect that you would hear something somewhat similar to BOP...which wouldn't be awful in the grand scheme of things.

I know there are some mixed reactions when you bring up BOP, but I can see an album with this direction being a strong effort to the average Live fan's ear. Imagine taking BOP with a really rejuvenated band and an Ed who is determined to prove his neigh-sayers wrong. This, in my opinion, would be your best case scenario.

The worst case scenario? You get one good single and an album that just sounds out of place. Personally, I think of Creed in 2009. Overcome made you think "Woah, these guys might have something here!"....then I heard the album. Ooof.

Of course, I hope that I am wrong on both fronts (something which I'm sure we all agree on). Nothing would be more amazing to see a fully functional, completely rejuvenated, back to the roots version of Live. However, I am just going to temper my expectations and enjoy the fact that my favorite band would be making and performing music at all.

[mattyeagles]

Live aside, historically reunions tend to fizzle more often than they revive careers. I think this is my biggest concern with Live going forward.

My guess is that you will see a tour and an album. The tour will help Live find a passion and learn to gel again enough to write an album. The album will be the tricky part. It is going to be very difficult for Live to live up to the expectations of it's fan base, which is why it is important to keep an open mind. There is no doubt that an album can be very good, but I wouldn't go expecting to hear Throwing Copper Part 2 or Secret Samadhi resurrected. Instead, I would expect that you would hear something somewhat similar to BOP...which wouldn't be awful in the grand scheme of things.

I know there are some mixed reactions when you bring up BOP, but I can see an album with this direction being a strong effort to the average Live fan's ear. Imagine taking BOP with a really rejuvenated band and an Ed who is determined to prove his neigh-sayers wrong. This, in my opinion, would be your best case scenario.

The worst case scenario? You get one good single and an album that just sounds out of place. Personally, I think of Creed in 2009. Overcome made you think "Woah, these guys might have something here!"....then I heard the album. Ooof.

Of course, I hope that I am wrong on both fronts (something which I'm sure we all agree on). Nothing would be more amazing to see a fully functional, completely rejuvenated, back to the roots version of Live. However, I am just going to temper my expectations and enjoy the fact that my favorite band would be making and performing music at all.

Spot on analysis - agreed

[Unsheathed]

I'm not expecting anything. I don't know how to expect anymore with this band.