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[LiveForNow]

Ed mentioned that he invited himself to Zoe's interview.

Gotta say though, I saw the whole conversation with a much different tone.

Right off the bat - Chad spins the first question. The host simply brought up how it must be cool to be at the radio station that first played Live.

Chad somehow turns this question into a conversation regarding the number one most heated point of contention in Live history - whether Ed was the principal songwriter vs. CCP having a collaborative role.

Look at this bizarre line of logic from Chad, just to address the issue:

• Interesting to think about how far you’ve gone >
• for instance I didn’t realize music was a form of communication >
• an ensemble art >
• one of the greatest attributes of live is that we can make music amongst four people >
• share in the dynamic of that creativity >
• what made us magical was our ability to stick together >
• to make a collective voice >
• safety in numbers >
• Ed could have easily done something on his own.

Could you imagine any other band member in the world feeling such a strong need to say things like, I didn't realize music is a form of communication, an ensemble art, what made us magical is our ability to stick together?
I totally agree that the only way Ed was allowed in the band is if he let the ideology of being the sole principal songwriter go.

Ed did cut Chad off mid speech a few times. I think Ed felt like he had to validate himself as a solo artist. He's never said before that he wishes he was solo before joining a band.

Despite all the smiles, I think it's hard to say whether the return of Ed was amicable business vs. true friendship. I'm not sold on either.

The big question obviously is the role Ed will play in Live now. Like you said, he's plugging Think Loud, and selling Zoe. Ed also confirmed that he was at Think Loud, inside the studio. I remember the rumor that someone saw Ed come out of the studio like about a month ago? Hopefully this means he's been putting in work.

Otherwise, kind of funny how Ed remembered being on Loveline with Dr. Drew. Would be neat if someone could dig up that video.

Also, I'm interested in Zoe's now because CCP are on the tracks, and Christopher Thorn, honorary Live guitarist during TDTH, was a producer. I thought the tracks played on the radio were not bad.

That's a good point about Chad spinning that question. Hadn't thought of it that way.

[LiveForNow]

That would have been something. But ultimately not really realistic. As Ed showed with having to be sued in order to stop marketing himself as part of Live - he never really wanted to go solo. He wanted to continue to use the Live name as much as he could. So I think if he had his time over he'd still prefer releasing Heaven as part of Live even if it was basically him solo.

But you're right, it certainly would have been a different world. If TGF still existed and a Shinn lead CCP was something other than Live (although to me it was more Live since anything post 2000). I wonder without that friction and with Ed able to write how he wants and still market himself as part of Live and use all the Live branding whether we would even be getting a reunion this quickly? Or at all? In this scenario both sides may even be more comfortable apart working the way they want to. Could be much longer than ~7 years

It would have been totally unrealistic. But in an ideal world, Heaven would have the perfect first song for Ed's solo career.

[vivapokey]

I just hope to see these snarky Ed comments end and peace between the two Live camps, as others here have expressed.

I don't like Chris Shinn because he is a rather craptastic performer. And that's all you will see me say about him (okay, and maybe that he's rather ugly haha), but it's not deep seeded hate & resentment.

[SJN1279]

Nice to see the board active again.....

[LiveForNow]

Nice to see the board active again.....

I was going to say if anything else it makes me really happy that the board has been so active since the interview.

[Voodoo Lady]

And your point, VivaPokey?

Because I was not a fan of Ed's style the latter years of Live, nor his solo work. Also, I would be one of the first to say if something that he put out there was weird or embarrassing.

I never understood all the rage from either side, so there.

[Voodoo Lady]

Nice to see the board active again.....

It's wonderful.

[vivapokey]

And your point, VivaPokey?

Because I was not a fan of Ed's style the latter years of Live, nor his solo work. Also, I would be one of the first to say if something that he put out there was weird or embarrassing.

I never understood all the rage from either side, so there.

Point being, you have that view of Chris - others equally have that view of Ed. So if you want people to accept your view of Shinn you gotta be prepared to accept the things people say about Ed. Can't just wish people wouldn't say bad things and then in the same breath say Chris is crap and ugly. Which is a nasty thing to say unto itself.

This post has been edited by vivapokey: Oct 26 2016, 8:43 pm

[Voodoo Lady]

Point being, you have that view of Chris - others equally have that view of Ed. So if you want people to accept your view of Shinn you gotta be prepared to accept the things people say about Ed. Can't just wish people wouldn't say bad things and then in the same breath say Chris is crap and ugly. Which is a nasty thing to say unto itself.

You don't get it. It's okay.

[vivapokey]

You don't get it. It's okay.

I'd say that comment should be more self directed. It's okay.

But if you think someone doesn't "get it" then usually you explain your point better unless you think your point was unimportant

This post has been edited by vivapokey: Oct 26 2016, 10:52 pm

[Hoodstock]

Okay, I may be misinterpreting the post, but when I read this, I thought to myself, "And the Ed-hating flames continue to still be fanned."

Yes, yes you did.

[Wambangalang]

Do you have to write a novel for every response dude? It's like the same response every time, i mean come on dude really? No hate, it's just really repetitive, have a good day!

TC

You do realise this is THE Pokey you are addressing, don't you? The same Pokey with thousands of posts and more than a decade of history under his belt on this very forum...

Thou shalt show respect, little swami

[throwing_cheetahs]

You do realise this is THE Pokey you are addressing, don't you? The same Pokey with thousands of posts and more than a decade of history under his belt on this very forum...

Thou shalt show respect, little swami

(sarcastically bows) ....does the same apply to you?
All i can think of is - that is alot of typing! Seriously, he's all right in my book, just a little long winded.

[Lakini's Juice]

You do realise this is THE Pokey you are addressing, don't you? The same Pokey with thousands of posts and more than a decade of history under his belt on this very forum...

Thou shalt show respect, little swami

If you want respect, you have to give respect.
No matter how big your post count is.

[Unsheathed]

If you want respect, you have to give respect.
No matter how big your post count is.

I love everyone on this board, except those with post counts under 100.

Those people disgust me.