Classic Rock Magazine (2014), The rise, demise and redemption of Live Options

[ThrowgnCpr]

I like "The Turn", but it is probably my least favorite Album. It's hard to measure up to old Live my friend, just a personal opinion.

TC

That's fine for you, but a lot of people don't agree with that statement. I can go without ever hearing anything from V through SFBM in my life again. The Turn is much closer to TC and SS for me.

[Costakoui]

That's fine for you, but a lot of people don't agree with that statement. I can go without ever hearing anything from V through SFBM in my life again. The Turn is much closer to TC and SS for me.

Yes The Turn sounds closer to TC and SS but it is not as power as these two albums are, but it is fine as it stands, it is pure gold. It is not easy to beat TC and SS.

[SinfulEyes]

That's fine for you, but a lot of people don't agree with that statement. I can go without ever hearing anything from V through SFBM in my life again. The Turn is much closer to TC and SS for me.

Yeah it's all a matter of personal taste. The Turn lands after TC, SS, MJ, and TDTH for me but it may keep growing on me and overtake TDTH. The more I listen to it the more I like it.

[SinfulEyes]

I do not like NBK much because it has a very generic chorus. However, i do like the combination of soft music with dark theme.

What is Live about for you? lalalala dadada, i look at my daughter, love shines etc?

Just ignore his comments.

[jclive]

I guess i am one of the few people who LOVES "V" "BOP" and "SFBM". I think LIVE was really good in the 2000's, so i differ from people saying they sucked during this time. I am not an idiot, so i am not saying those records are better than TC and SS but i love them!

TC

That depends on how you define "few." There are some really great songs on those albums. And some really bad songs too. We all have our opinions about which ones (and how many of them) may fall into which category, and I'm not here to argue those opinions. What makes a great song for me is very likely much different than what makes a great song for all of you reading this.

Reading this board, I get the feeling that I'm one of the 'few' who is of the opinion that MJ is without question the greatest Live album that has ever been and will ever be. I also think I'm one of the 'few' from an earlier generation who may identify more with the MJ and TC eras than others.

Back to the thread topic...
I love this quote from Chad in the article:
But I want both sides to win. I want Ed to have the solo career he should have had earlier, and I want us to continue with Live in the way we always wanted to.

That is all. Now back to the arguing!

[Costakoui]

What's your point? They also made some of their worst music with Ed. Live with Ed had 7 albums and 20-some years, so statistically speaking they had a much better chance of making their best music. Who knows what their time with Chris will bring. He's been with them just a couple years and released only a single album.

I would rephrase it as Ed made his best music with CCP and his worst without them. This should tell ALL something.

[zmanpga]

nice interview. Anyone who reads that, and still says that "Live works better as ECCP" is a moron.

agreed

[turningstones]

Yes it's best Ed and LIVE are separated for their own personal happiness and fulfillment. Each are in a good place it seems.

Pat's comments seemed to be a tounge and cheek on his Off The Record vid clip. Those holding their breath on a reunion, I think you can put it all to rest. Not happening. Pat said sit down a long time from now and talk about life. Music together is done, that era is complete. It was good for half of it, the other half was a power struggle, but thankfully all parties are doing what they want. and happy. LIVE continues in the band spirit and music, Ed gets his solo career. Hopefully Ed re-pays his debts in the future to all parties (what i mean is his distancing from the LIVE family). Hopefully ha can apologize for the deep hurt caused because to me it's certainly more coming from his end.

[jclive]

Yes it's best Ed and LIVE are separated for their own personal happiness and fulfillment. Each are in a good place it seems.

Pat's comments seemed to be a tounge and cheek on his Off The Record vid clip. Those holding their breath on a reunion, I think you can put it all to rest. Not happening. Pat said sit down a long time from now and talk about life. Music together is done, that era is complete. It was good for half of it, the other half was a power struggle, but thankfully all parties are doing what they want. and happy. LIVE continues in the band spirit and music, Ed gets his solo career. Hopefully Ed re-pays his debts in the future to all parties (what i mean is his distancing from the LIVE family). Hopefully ha can apologize for the deep hurt caused because to me it's certainly more coming from his end.

What sort of debt does Ed have to repay?

I would think that apologies (if any) would eventually come from both sides; not just one.

[+AllOverMe+]

I have to admit that i like every record made by Live.
But to be very honest, i don't spin V, BOP and SFBM very often.
The Turn is a much better album, and it has the spirit of Live.
But after this interview, i wonder if i could ever listen again to V, BOP and SFBM.....

[SJN1279]

What sort of debt does Ed have to repay?

I would think that apologies (if any) would eventually come from both sides; not just one.

CCP tried to humiliate Ed publicly, and also tried to have Live fans turn against him by stating all of Ed's supposed wrongdoings on twitter and public blogs. Not to mention subjecting Ed and his family to a very public, and very ridiculous lawsuit.

Apologies def have to go both ways.

[turningstones]

CCP tried to humiliate Ed publicly, and also tried to have Live fans turn against him by stating all of Ed's supposed wrongdoings on twitter and public blogs. Not to mention subjecting Ed and his family to a very public, and very ridiculous lawsuit.

Apologies def have to go both ways.

Sounds like you're trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube here.

After many years of being held at bay with egotistcal behavior and bad attitude to most of the internal Live family, people just burst over time. I am sure they apologized for some of the internet chatter, it's evidenced by much of their support for his current work on social media and the many interview. Look like they moved on. People who have been following the band since day 1, can tell you they can make their own decision on the direction and support of what came after year 2000+ Live didn't try to turn fans against Ed, Ed did that on his own accord over several years.

Some of the post suit pot shots from Ed's facebook on that he did it all and the rest had no creative input is proof full example of said ego and continued ego. I don't think CCP ever subjected Ed's family to any of that. It was addressed to him. Boy, that sounds a bit kindergarten from you there. Can you produce some facts or support for your claims?

As for the stuff I've read the suits had merit and were settled out of court due to full merit of the plaintiffs, albiet it being quiet and confidential.

[SJN1279]

Sounds like you're trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube here.

After many years of being held at bay with egotistcal behavior and bad attitude to most of the internal Live family, people just burst over time. I am sure they apologized for some of the internet chatter, it's evidenced by much of their support for his current work on social media and the many interview. Look like they moved on. People who have been following the band since day 1, can tell you they can make their own decision on the direction and support of what came after year 2000+ Live didn't try to turn fans against Ed, Ed did that on his own accord over several years.

Some of the post suit pot shots from Ed's facebook on that he did it all and the rest had no creative input is proof full example of said ego and continued ego. I don't think CCP ever subjected Ed's family to any of that. It was addressed to him. Boy, that sounds a bit kindergarten from you there. Can you produce some facts or support for your claims?

As for the stuff I've read the suits had merit and were settled out of court due to full merit of the plaintiffs, albiet it being quiet and confidential.

When you sue a person, you involve the entire family. When you make public claims against a person, the whole family feels the sting. Do you think Ed's daughters wanted to read about the "awful" things that their dad supposedly did.

It was totally uncalled for how CCP made things public, and tried to turn the fanbase against Ed. Their actions not only hurt Ed, but CCP as well. The non-factor of The Turn and the lackluster attendance at most of their shows support that.

The lawsuit was settled quietly, but CCP and their fanbase were crowing about it during to no end. After the settlement, it was all quiet on the western front. It is clear, they didn't fare as well as they would have liked.

[jclive]

Sounds like you're trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube here.

After many years of being held at bay with egotistcal behavior and bad attitude to most of the internal Live family, people just burst over time. I am sure they apologized for some of the internet chatter, it's evidenced by much of their support for his current work on social media and the many interview. Look like they moved on. People who have been following the band since day 1, can tell you they can make their own decision on the direction and support of what came after year 2000+ Live didn't try to turn fans against Ed, Ed did that on his own accord over several years.

Some of the post suit pot shots from Ed's facebook on that he did it all and the rest had no creative input is proof full example of said ego and continued ego. I don't think CCP ever subjected Ed's family to any of that. It was addressed to him. Boy, that sounds a bit kindergarten from you there. Can you produce some facts or support for your claims?

As for the stuff I've read the suits had merit and were settled out of court due to full merit of the plaintiffs, albiet it being quiet and confidential.

Sounds like you know more than you are letting on here. I'm curious now..

[sellingthdrama]

I have to admit that i like every record made by Live.
But to be very honest, i don't spin V, BOP and SFBM very often.
The Turn is a much better album, and it has the spirit of Live.
But after this interview, i wonder if i could ever listen again to V, BOP and SFBM.....

I do to; I like each album for what it is. Though overall, I connect much much more with the first four albums.

I was surprised to hear Chad describe V, BOP, and SFBM the way he did. I knew CCP were just backup on SFBM, but I didn't expect to hear him characterize V and BOP like that (but the music supports that, too).