Live Rarities Collection 10CD set nearing completion!, Some help needed to ensure highest quality files used Options

[Bremang]

Analogue cassette tape sourced demo tracks have not been included (that's a project for another day!), however I have enlisted an expert mastering buddy of mine to remaster key songs that are not available elsewhere as a bonus at the end of Volume Four

what the fucking hell is "key songs that are not available elsewhere" supposed to mean?!

[Bremang]

Here it is - the final tracklist!
1. Beautiful Invisible ['V' Outtake]
2. Radiant Sea ['V' Outtake]

"'V' outtake"?

is this true?

[ridley]

what the fucking hell is "key songs that are not available elsewhere" supposed to mean?!

I thought it was pretty clear

Just these songs that were never officially released - as opposed to minor variations of tracks that are available on actual albums (e.g. Amphibious, Fijian Seas, etc)

Bonus: Remastered Demo Tape Leaks
16. Hold Me Up [Throwing Copper Outtake]
17. Susquehanna [Throwing Copper Outtake]
18. Cheetah [Secret Samadhi Outtake]
19. Still Aroused [The Distance To Here Outtake]
20. Overcome [Full Band - The Distance To Here Outtake]
21. Don't Wait [The Distance To Here Outtake]
22. Walk Into This Room [The Distance To Here Outtake]

And before someone points it out - yes WITR was released as a duet, but not as a Live song with only Ed

[Bremang]

heck of a collection man thanks!

[Bremang]

Here it is - the final tracklist!


Analogue cassette tape sourced demo tracks have not been included (that's a project for another day!),

Bonus: Remastered Demo Tape Leaks
16. Hold Me Up [Throwing Copper Outtake]
17. Susquehanna [Throwing Copper Outtake]
18. Cheetah [Secret Samadhi Outtake]
19. Still Aroused [The Distance To Here Outtake]
20. Overcome [Full Band - The Distance To Here Outtake]
21. Don't Wait [The Distance To Here Outtake]
22. Walk Into This Room [The Distance To Here Outtake]

How are "Demo Tape Leaks" not "cassette tape sourced"? Are we just distinguishing that these were "remastered" by a fan?

[Bremang]

I thought it was pretty clear

Just these songs that were never officially released - as opposed to minor variations of tracks that are available on actual albums (e.g. Amphibious, Fijian Seas, etc)

"Not available elsewhere" and "never officially released" are two very different things. We get tons of tracks that were never officially released. But we generally don't get tracks that are "Not available elsewhere."

[ridley]

How are "Demo Tape Leaks" not "cassette tape sourced"? Are we just distinguishing that these were "remastered" by a fan?

"Not available elsewhere" and "never officially released" are two very different things. We get tons of tracks that were never officially released. But we generally don't get tracks that are "Not available elsewhere."

I think you're splitting hairs here man

I didn't include the all the demo tape tracks as a rule (just like rare concert performances like 'The Beacon' and 'Change' etc weren't included), but I made an exception to include the still unreleased studio outtakes such as Hold Me Up and Don't Wait as a bonus, even though they aren't available in CD quality.

I think all with be pleased with the improvement in sound quality that a little remastering from someone who knows what they are doing has resulted in

[Bremang]

very good

[ridley]

I accidentally linked to the wrong spreadsheet before - link now updated below.

Here it is - the final tracklist!

Anyone who with a sizeable Live collection or thinks they know a thing or two about Live rarities is encouraged to have a look through this to see if there is anything that has been missed.

- The collection is limited to official releases including all commercial and fanclub singles, bonus tracks, compilation appearances, promos and acetates.

- Audio ripped from officially released video material has been included (e.g. Simple Creed from 2001 FOL Gift, Selling The Drama from BOP bonus DVD, Acoustic at Black Mountain DualDisc tracks).

- Leaks such as 'They Stood Up For Love (Ballad Version)' have also been included when they are available in clean CD quality.

Analogue cassette tape sourced demo tracks have not been included (that's a project for another day!), however I have enlisted an expert mastering buddy of mine to remaster key songs that are not available elsewhere as a bonus at the end of Volume Four

Anyone who wants further info on the source for these tracks - details are available in this spreadsheet.
Volume One

Disc One: 1991 - 1994

1. Heaven Wore A Shirt [Mental Jewelry Outtake]
2. Negation [Mental Jewelry Outtake]
3. Born Branded [Mental Jewelry Outtake]
4. Pain Lies On The Riverside [Live at Chameleon, Lancaster 1992-01-24]
5. Operation Spirit [Live at Chameleon, Lancaster 1992-01-24]
6. The Beauty Of Gray [Live at The Ritz, NYC 1992-04-24]
7. Good Pain [Live at The Ritz, NYC 1992-04-24]
8. We Deal In Dreams [Throwing Copper Outtake]
9. Selling The Drama [Acoustic at Modern Rock Live 1994]
10. I Alone [Acoustic at Modern Rock Live 1994]
11. The Dam At Otter Creek [Live at The Roxy, Los Angeles 1994-05-16]
12. Selling The Drama [Live at The Roxy, Los Angeles 1994-05-16]
13. The Beauty Of Gray [Live at The Roxy, Los Angeles 1994-05-16]
14. Lightning Crashes [Live at The Roxy, Los Angeles 1994-05-16]
15. I Alone [Live at The Roxy, Los Angeles 1994-05-16]
16. Operation Spirit [Live at The Roxy, Los Angeles 1994-05-16]
17. T.B.D. [Acoustic at 99x 1994-06-04]
18. Operation Spirit [Acoustic at 99x 1994-06-04]

Disc Two: 1994 - 1995

1. Selling The Drama [Naked at WBCN 1994-07-18]
2. Selling The Drama [Live at Woodstock 1994-08-12]
3. Supernatural [Live at The Academy, NYC 1994-11-19]
4. Lightning Crashes [Live at The Academy, NYC 1994-11-19]
5. I Alone [Live at KROQ 1994-12-10]
6. Supernatural [Acoustic at The World Cafe 1995-01-13]
7. I Alone [Live on Saturday Night Live 1995-01-21]
8. Selling The Drama [Acoustic 2 Meter Sessies 1995-02-11]
9. The Beauty Of Gray [Acoustic 2 Meter Sessies 1995-02-11]
10. Selling The Drama [Acoustic At Q101 Chicago 1995-02-15]
11. I Alone [MTV Unplugged 1995-02-19]
12. Supernatural [MTV Unplugged 1995-02-19]
13. Lightning Crashes [MTV Unplugged 1995-02-19]
14. Shit Towne [Live at Pinkpop, Holland 1995-06-05]
15. Waitress [Live at Gino, Stockholm 1995-06-09]
16. Shit Towne [Live at Glastonbury 1995-06-24]
17. Iris [Live at Glastonbury 1995-06-24]
18. All Over You [Live at Glastonbury 1995-06-24]
19. Lightning Crashes [Live at Glastonbury 1995-06-24]
20. White, Discussion [Live at Glastonbury 1995-06-24]

Volume Two

Disc One: 1996 - 1997

1. Mall Rat [Demo]
2. Photograph [Demo]
3. Lakini's Juice [Live in Washington DC 1997-02-19]
4. Lakini's Juice [Full-On Mix]
5. Rattlesnake [Live in Toronto 1997-02-21]
6. Freaks [Live in Toronto 1997-02-21]
7. Iris [Live in Toronto 1997-02-21]
8. Heropsychodreamer [Live in Toronto 1997-02-21]
9. Love My Way [Live in Toronto 1997-02-21]
10. Lakini's Juice [Live in Toronto 1997-02-21]
11. Rattlesnake [Live in Melbourne 1997-05-08]
12. Turn My Head [Live in Melbourne 1997-05-08]
13. Freaks [Live in Melbourne 1997-05-08]
14. Lakini's Juice [Live in Melbourne 1997-05-08]
15. Century [Live at Pinkpop 1997-05-19]
16. Merica [Live in Australia 1997]
17. Mirror Song [Live in USA 1997]

Disc Two: 1998 - 1999

1. Where Fishes Go [Demo]
2. They Stood Up For Love [Ballad Version]
3. Deeper [The Distance To Here Outtake]
4. Sparkle [Different Version]
5. Vine Street [The Distance To Here Outtake]
6. Sun [Loop Version]
7. The Dolphin's Cry [Radio Mix with Guitar Intro]
8. Run To The Water [TLA Special Sauce / Radio Mix]
9. I Alone [Live at Woodstock 1999-07-23]
10. Dance With You [Live at Q101 Chicago 1999-08-23]
11. The Dolphin's Cry [Acoustic at Radio 3, Holland 1999-09-09]
12. I Alone [Live at Y100 Sonic Sessions 1999-09-17]
13. The Dolphin's Cry [Live at The House Of Blues, Las Vegas 1999-10-24]
14. Shit Towne [Live at The Hague, Holland 1999-12-02]
15. Sparkle [Live at The Hague, Holland 1999-12-02]
16. Imagine [Live at The Hague, Holland 1999-12-02]

Volume Three

Disc One: 2000 - 2001

1. Run To The Water [Live at The Chapel 2000-03-13]
2. Lightning Crashes [Live at The Chapel 2000-03-13]
3. Dance With You [Studio Version with Anouk]
4. Run To The Water [Acoustic at Jet Studios, Brussels 2000-04-Xx]
5. The Distance [Acoustic at Jet Studios, Brussels 2000-04-Xx]
6. The Dolphin's Cry [Acoustic at Jet Studios, Brussels 2000-04-Xx]
7. I Alone [Acoustic at Jet Studios, Brussels 2000-04-Xx]
8. They Stood Up For Love [Acoustic at Jet Studios, Brussels 2000-04-Xx]
9. Run To The Water [Acoustic 2 Meter Sessies 2000-04-07]
10. All Over You [Live in Holmdel, New Jersey 2000-08-22]
11. The Beauty Of Gray [Live in Holmdel, New Jersey 2000-08-22]
12. The Distance [Live in Holmdel, New Jersey 2000-08-22]
13. Shit Towne [Live in Holmdel, New Jersey 2000-08-22]
14. I Walk The Line [Johnny Cash Cover]
15. Forever May Not Be Long Enough [Rough Mix]
16. Transmit Your Love [Alternate Version]

Disc Two: 2001 - 2002

1. Beautiful Invisible ['V' Outtake]
2. Radiant Sea ['V' Outtake]
3. Overcome [Acoustic at Y100 Sonic Sessions 2001-06-09]
4. Simple Creed [Live at Lowlands Festival 2001-08-26]
5. I Alone [Live in The XLounge, Alabama 2001-05-19]
6. Simple Creed [Live at The Philadelphia Spectrum 2001-05-18]
7. Pillar Of Davidson [Live at The Philadelphia Spectrum 2001-05-18]
8. Dance With You [Live at The Philadelphia Spectrum 2001-05-18]
9. Overcome [Live at The Philadelphia Spectrum 2001-05-18]
10. Overcome [Acoustic at 89X Windsor, Ontario 2001-10-05]
11. Operation Spirit [Live at Ahoy, Rotterdam 2001-10-11]
12. The Distance [Live at Pinkpop 2002-05-18]
13. Selling The Drama [Live at Pinkpop 2002-05-18]
14. Voodoo Lady [Live at Pinkpop 2002-05-18]
15. Call Me A Fool [Live at Pinkpop 2002-05-18]
16. Nobody Knows [Live at Pinkpop 2002-05-18]
17. White, Discussion [Live at Pinkpop 2002-05-18]
18. Overcome [Instrumental]

Volume Four

Disc One: 2003 - 2004

1. Run Away [Acoustic]
2. Heaven [Acoustic]
3. She [Extended Version]
4. Everytime I See Your Face [Extended Version]
5. Like I Do [Live at The Vorst Nationaal, Brussels 2003-05-31]
6. Lighthouse [Live at The Vorst Nationaal, Brussels 2003-05-31]
7. The Dolphin's Cry [Live at The Vorst Nationaal, Brussels 2003-05-31]
8. The Beauty Of Gray [Live at The Vorst Nationaal, Brussels 2003-05-31]
9. Run Away [Live at The Vorst Nationaal, Brussels 2003-05-31]
10. They Stood Up For Love [Live at The Vorst Nationaal, Brussels 2003-05-31]
11. Lakini's Juice [Live at The Vorst Nationaal, Brussels 2003-05-31]
12. I Alone [Live at The Vorst Nationaal, Brussels 2003-05-31]
13. Heaven [Live at The Vorst Nationaal, Brussels 2003-05-31]
14. Overcome [Live at The Vorst Nationaal, Brussels 2003-05-31]
15. Run Away [Acoustic with Shelby Lynne]
16. Selling The Drama [Live at The York Strand Theatre 2004-05-28]
17. Sweet Release [Live at The York Strand Theatre 2004-05-28]

Disc Two: 2005 - 2008

1. The River [Guitars Up Mix]
2. Mystery [No Strings Version]
3. Show [Rough Mix]
4. Sofia [Rough Mix]
5. Home [Rough Mix]
6. The River [Acoustic Mix]
7. Get Ready [Acoustic at Black Mountain]
8. Love Shines [Acoustic at Black Mountain]
9. The River [Acoustic at Black Mountain]
10. Mystery [Acoustic at Black Mountain]
11. Mirror Song [Live at The Paradiso 2008-07-01]
12. They Stood Up For Love [Live at The Paradiso 2008-07-01]
13. Wings [Live at The Paradiso 2008-07-01]
14. Forever [2008 Studio Session]
15. Purifier [2008 Studio Session]

Bonus: Remastered Demo Tape Leaks
16. Hold Me Up [Throwing Copper Outtake]
17. Susquehanna [Throwing Copper Outtake]
18. Cheetah [Secret Samadhi Outtake]
19. Still Aroused [The Distance To Here Outtake]
20. Overcome [Full Band - The Distance To Here Outtake]
21. Don't Wait [The Distance To Here Outtake]
22. Walk Into This Room [The Distance To Here Outtake]

Volume Five

Disc One: Single Edits

1. Pain Lies On The Riverside [Single Version]
2. The Beauty Of Gray [Edit]
3. Lightning Crashes [Radio Edit]
4. I Alone [Edit]
5. Pillar Of Davidson [Edit]
6. White, Discussion [Special Radio Edit]
7. We Deal In Dreams [Radio Edit]
8. Lakini's Juice [Radio Edit]
9. Freaks [Radio Edit]
10. Turn My Head [Radio Edit]
11. Ghost [Video Edit]
12. The Dolphin's Cry [Radio Edit]
13. Run To The Water [Fade]
14. They Stood Up For Love [Radio Mix]
15. Forever May Not Be Long Enough [Original Version]
16. Run Away [with Shelby Lynne]
17. Mystery [with Chris Daughtry]

Disc Two: Remixes & Side-Projects

1. Pain Lies On The Riverside [Club Mix]
2. White, Discussion [Sam Sever Remix]
3. Lightning Crashes [Oklahoma City Mix]
4. Lakini's Juice [Sippin' On Lakini's Juice Remix]
5. Freaks [Labor Labor Labor Remix]
6. Deep Enough [Remix]
7. Like A Soldier [Chris Vrenna Remix]
8. Forever May Not Be Long Enough [Egyptians Dreams Remix]
9. Like A Soldier [Alain Johannes Remix]
10. Run Away [Tuppin Remix]
11. Indie Hair [The Heads feat. Ed]
12. Walk Into This Room [Ed with Neneh Cherry]
13. Evolution Revolution Love [Tricky feat. Ed & Hawkman]
14. A Growing Voice [Adam & The Weight feat. Ed]
15. Smoke [Stuart Davis feat. Ed]
16. Miracle [Stuart Davis feat. Ed]
17. I Alone [Performed by Anouk & Sarah Battens]
18. Pillar Of Davidson [Performed by The Unchoir]

[BERLINONE]

Ridley,

I am a language freak.
If I do see some writing mistakes , can I mail them to you ?
It's nicer when names are written correctly.
Just saw Sarah Battens --> should be Sarah Bettens

Only in the positive way to help you.

BERLINONE

PS: Impressive list !!
Can't wait to check my items and later on DL this "collection"

This post has been edited by BERLINONE: Dec 10 2013, 2:47 am

[FreakyDee]

Wow Ridley, very very nice!

I got a special demo disc what contains for example:
- Deeper
- Face And Ghost
- Meltdown
- Sparkle (Diff version)

You got that?

[ridley]

Ridley,

I am a language freak.
If I do see some writing mistakes , can I mail them to you ?
It's nicer when names are written correctly.
Just saw Sarah Battens --> should be Sarah Bettens

Only in the positive way to help you.

BERLINONE

PS: Impressive list !!
Can't wait to check my items and later on DL this "collection"

Yes - please correct any typos you see, I'm anal about this stuff too and no doubt some things will be missed in a collection this big

Wow Ridley, very very nice!

I got a special demo disc what contains for example:
- Deeper
- Face And Ghost
- Meltdown
- Sparkle (Diff version)

You got that?

Do you mean this 1998 Demos disc?

http://www.fansoflive.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2124

If so - yes I have it, and it is the source of the bonus Still Aroused, Overcome (full band), Don't Wait and WITR

[FreakyDee]

Yes - please correct any typos you see, I'm anal about this stuff too and no doubt some things will be missed in a collection this big
Do you mean this 1998 Demos disc?

http://www.fansoflive.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2124

If so - yes I have it, and it is the source of the bonus Still Aroused, Overcome (full band), Don't Wait and WITR

Ah yes, thats the one!
Just noticed because you had a mp3 version of Deeper

[ridley]

Ah yes, thats the one!
Just noticed because you had a mp3 version of Deeper

Yeah - even though Deeper is an mp3 it is from a much better source (US acetate) and sounds a lot better than the 1998 demo (which is actually in mono!).

Unfortunately no one actually seems to have a copy of the original source to give us a lossless rip
(same goes for the different version of Sparkle from the Meltdown acetate)

[Bremang]

Yes - please correct any typos you see, I'm anal about this stuff too and no doubt some things will be missed in a collection this big

Then perhaps maybe get rid of the "V" label for the Radiant Sea studio tracks because that's all speculation, right? People actually thought Tricky was rapping on Radiant Sea too....there's no way that is true.

This post has been edited by Bremang: Dec 10 2013, 11:07 pm