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[themaestro]

Whether you limit yourself, or tell yourself you're free, anytime you defend yourself, that is your ego. You are doing it right now when you defend the acceptance of Chris.

Here's a quote:
I'm glad I don't live within the self imposed boundaries that define so many. "It's supposed to be this way or that way". No it isn't.

the moment you said "no it isn't" that was your ego preservation. The ego still governs all those who believe that they are anti-ego.

Look at me, I'm the greatest now that I have no ego.

The buzzword "ego" has been given a pejorative meaning when in fact its not as complex as you make it out to be. Sure, alot of pride and ego can prevent people from making certain choices, but sometimes people make choices merely based on personal preference.

You say ego is only reason why people wouldn't accept chris, "that and nothing else." Wrong. Some people don't like his voice, and don't know him. When Chris is singing Ed's lyrics, he has know idea what the words are about...those are also reasons why some people do not prefer him.

How about this...let's say the sexiest woman in the world is going to give you a blowjob. However, she'll only do it if you blindfold yourself and wear earmuffs. After you put on the blindfold and earmuffs, lets switch out the sexiest woman ever and replace her with some dude who gives exceptional head. When he's all finished with you and you had a great time, let's take your blindfold off, and you can ponder whether your ego is keeping you from the truth, or in fact you simply have a preference.

Sure, I'm the one preserving my ego by suggesting people limit their experiences through their filters and definitions while you're making excuses for how and why they do it.

[Live4Life]

Whether you limit yourself, or tell yourself you're free, anytime you defend yourself, that is your ego. You are doing it right now when you defend the acceptance of Chris.

Here's a quote:
I'm glad I don't live within the self imposed boundaries that define so many. "It's supposed to be this way or that way". No it isn't.

the moment you said "no it isn't" that was your ego preservation. The ego still governs all those who believe that they are anti-ego.

Look at me, I'm the greatest now that I have no ego.

The buzzword "ego" has been given a pejorative meaning when in fact its not as complex as you make it out to be. Sure, alot of pride and ego can prevent people from making certain choices, but sometimes people make choices merely based on personal preference.

You say ego is only reason why people wouldn't accept chris, "that and nothing else." Wrong. Some people don't like his voice, and don't know him. When Chris is singing Ed's lyrics, he has know idea what the words are about...those are also reasons why some people do not prefer him.

How about this...let's say the sexiest woman in the world is going to give you a blowjob. However, she'll only do it if you blindfold yourself and wear earmuffs. After you put on the blindfold and earmuffs, lets switch out the sexiest woman ever and replace her with some dude who gives exceptional head. When he's all finished with you and you had a great time, let's take your blindfold off, and you can ponder whether your ego is keeping you from the truth, or in fact you simply have a preference.

Brilliant. +1

[Bremang]

Sure, I'm the one preserving my ego by suggesting people limit their experiences through their filters and definitions while you're making excuses for how and why they do it.

You're preserving your ego mostly by "denouncing anything but" your perception of Live, according to your definition. No, I didn't make excuses. I just said they have a preference. The difference is that excuses would suggest there is blame or fault that needs justification on the part of those who prefer Ed. But it's merely a preference, and I don't see anything wrong with choosing which singer someone likes best.

[themaestro]

You're preserving your ego mostly by "denouncing anything but" your perception of Live, according to your definition. No, I didn't make excuses. I just said they have a preference. The difference is that excuses would suggest there is blame or fault that needs justification on the part of those who prefer Ed. But it's merely a preference, and I don't see anything wrong with choosing which singer someone likes best.

My perception of Live is that there is no definition. Others are measuring it against their definitions. Which you deem fine. Great. Call it whatever you want, I'm advocating a suspension of predetermined definitions in order to fully experience without bias as a way of truly determining whether or not you like it. There's nothing about that which serves to protect my ego. Perhaps sharing that on a message board does, and with that I'm out.

[Bremang]

My perception of Live is that there is no definition. Others are measuring it against their definitions. Which you deem fine. Great. Call it whatever you want, I'm advocating a suspension of predetermined definitions in order to fully experience without bias as a way of truly determining whether or not you like it. There's nothing about that which serves to protect my ego. Perhaps sharing that on a message board does, and with that I'm out.

You seem to misunderstand again.

You were denouncing other people's perception of Live, which falls into your own definition of preserving your ego. You were also saying ego was the only reason why people wouldn't like Chris, but sometimes people just prefer what they already think will be enjoyable.

This post has been edited by Bremang: Sep 24 2013, 7:54 pm

[figure8]

so boring. another person taking their opinion and calling it fact.

Wish I was the only one. Don't know if it is boring or not, but what Ed is releasing nowadays is definitely boring. 2 releases and both are shite. Argue as long as you want about this, if there is a definition of shit music - Ed should be in that dictionary.

I am not taking sides here, cannot say anything about Live with Chris, as I did not hear any of the finished or new material - will listen to it when it is released and will have my say. Cannot really judge the man by singing old Live songs.

My argument is about Ed being a unique musician. Where exactly is he unique? If I am boring, simply state where I can listen or hear Ed's new material which is unique?

This post has been edited by figure8: Sep 25 2013, 4:21 am

[Bremang]

My argument is about Ed being a unique musician. Where exactly is he unique? If I am boring, simply state where I can listen or hear Ed's new material which is unique?

Ed is the only primary singer/songwriter for Live's catalog, including Throwing Copper. That's literally unique.

This post has been edited by Bremang: Sep 25 2013, 6:29 am

[figure8]

Ed is the only primary singer/songwriter for Live's catalog, including Throwing Copper. That's literally unique.

Won't argue. But whatever Ed had during that era, unfortunately, is now absent. You cannot compare what he did on Throwing Copper to his solo work. Or can you? But let's not forget the rest of the guys that did make an input on this album as well, and it's not a small input to my concern.

I do believe that maybe one day he will record a good album, but it surely didn't happen yet. His work now is way beyond mediocre to be even compared to things that he did in the past.

This post has been edited by figure8: Sep 25 2013, 7:14 am

[Bremang]

True but the context is mainly in regards to the Throwing Copper anniversary show, not his solo work, and how some people might expect Ed for that.

[Live4Life]

what Ed is releasing nowadays is definitely boring.

To YOU, yes, to YOU..... Not US. Get it?

Do you undastan now?




What the fuck is wrong with you people?

[figure8]

To YOU, yes, to YOU..... Not US. Get it?

Do you undastan now?


What the fuck is wrong with you people?

Yes, to me, I do understand that. And as my knowledge of music is a bit wider than yours, I do conclude that what Ed is doing nowadays is below mediocre and also is boring. For somebody else it might have been ok, but knowing what he did in the past changes the outcome.

Have a good day.

This post has been edited by figure8: Sep 26 2013, 12:54 am

[andymbj]

Yes, to me, I do understand that. And as my knowledge of music is a bit wider than yours, I do conclude that what Ed is doing nowadays is below mediocre and also is boring. For somebody else it might have been ok, but knowing what he did in the past changes the outcome.

Have a good day.

Knowing what he did in the past stops you from being objective. It doesn't change the outcome, it is the same music. You conclude that what Ed is doing now is below mediocre and is boring, yet say for somebody else it might have been ok. Regardless of who the artist is, the tracks would be the same. And your opinion of the music should be too.

I don't profess to have your musical knowledge, but personally, I like to judge music on how it sounds, not who is performing it.

[figure8]

Knowing what he did in the past stops you from being objective. It doesn't change the outcome, it is the same music. You conclude that what Ed is doing now is below mediocre and is boring, yet say for somebody else it might have been ok. Regardless of who the artist is, the tracks would be the same. And your opinion of the music should be too.

I don't profess to have your musical knowledge, but personally, I like to judge music on how it sounds, not who is performing it.

Forget about the musical knowledge, I'm pretty certain I don't have a degree in it.

I don't agree with the statement that knowing what he did in the past stops me from being objective, I actually think it is the other way around.

If Ed would've tried something new, would not really matter if it was bad or good, if there was at least some creativity in it, I would definitely give him a credit for doing it - what Ed is releasing nowadays is the same old story with a new booklet.

The only reason why I am saying all of this is because I know that this guy can do a better job and release a much better album. If he will continue releasing albums like the latest one, in couple of years no one will remember who Ed K. is. Apart, of course, from folks on this message board.

This post has been edited by figure8: Sep 27 2013, 12:50 am

[mfitz804]

what Ed is releasing nowadays is the same old story with a new booklet.

99.99999% of the Ed haters on this board literally want him to release the old story (i.e. MJ or TC era) with a new booklet.

[figure8]

99.99999% of the Ed haters on this board literally want him to release the old story (i.e. MJ or TC era) with a new booklet.

Don't know about the Ed haters, personally I don't hate the guy. You cannot consider his latest releases to be the new stories as this is now dragging since 2006. So to me, not only his latest releases are not so new (music wise), them old stories (MJ or TC) were much better.

As I said - I would like to see Ed releasing some fresh material - lyrically, musically, rhythmically. As what is happening now is just getting old.