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post Sep 23 2013, 9:32 am
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I'm glad I don't live within the self imposed boundaries that define so many. "It's supposed to be this way or that way". No it isn't. Life is only clouded and limited by believing so. I guarantee there are plenty of Live fans that enjoy Live with Chris as if it were Ed only to be conflicted upon learning it's not Ed. Unfortunately, instead of enjoying it naturally as their body and soul did, they'll opt for ego preservation and dismiss it for no other reason.


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post Sep 23 2013, 12:29 pm
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It has absolutely nothing to do with ego preservation. Instead of enjoying the show to the fullest, some people will obviously notice it doesn't sound or look the same. Ed is a one of a kind vocalist and performer. He has a unique stage presence that in my opinion is a significant staple of the great band behind TC. If you weren't expecting a new lead singer on stage, how could you not be a bit disappointed?


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post Sep 23 2013, 1:07 pm
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QUOTE(Soxwsc @ Sep 23 2013, 12:29 pm) *

It has absolutely nothing to do with ego preservation. Instead of enjoying the show to the fullest, some people will obviously notice it doesn't sound or look the same. Ed is a one of a kind vocalist and performer. He has a unique stage presence that in my opinion is a significant staple of the great band behind TC. If you weren't expecting a new lead singer on stage, how could you not be a bit disappointed?


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post Sep 23 2013, 5:37 pm
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QUOTE(Soxwsc @ Sep 23 2013, 9:14 am) *

I don't know if I'd want to. It's just not the same without Ed. I like Chris Shinn.. Unified Theory used to be one of my favorite bands. I still listen to that cd from time to time.

If "Live" decided to play a bunch of new stuff at a show, music I actually liked, then I'd be interested. But celebrating the 20th anniversary by playing TC from start to finish should be something that's played with the original band members in tact. If not, it seems kind of weird.. a new lead Singer who had nothing to do with these songs and has to learn every lyric written by someone who I admired growing up and was sued by the rest of the band seems strange to me.

BTW, I was only referring to those casual fans, which I'm sure there will be plenty of in attendance. I'm pretty sure there will be some who have no idea that Ed is gone and will be extremely disappointed once they find out. I was only referring to them.



I agree. I have no interest in this show at all. It's kind of funny actually. You go to the facebook and you'll see people saying shit like
"""OMG your singer sounds so great even after all these years! I still love him!"""
hahhaaa , then they delete it.

Casual fans do not know it's a dif singer. It is wierd...not kind of wierd.


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post Sep 23 2013, 5:56 pm
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QUOTE(themaestro @ Sep 23 2013, 10:32 am) *
I'm glad I don't live within the self imposed boundaries that define so many. "It's supposed to be this way or that way". No it isn't. Life is only clouded and limited by believing so. I guarantee there are plenty of Live fans that enjoy Live with Chris as if it were Ed only to be conflicted upon learning it's not Ed. Unfortunately, instead of enjoying it naturally as their body and soul did, they'll opt for ego preservation and dismiss it for no other reason.


I get what you're saying but that buzz word that CCP fans use so much, "ego," is just too vague and inapplicable. It's more like ordering a delicious burger at a famous burger joint and then finding out that you actually ate the veggie burger. Sure, tastes great but you kinda wanted the classic.

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post Sep 23 2013, 6:28 pm
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Sep 23 2013, 5:56 pm) *

I get what you're saying but that buzz word that CCP fans use so much, "ego," is just too vague and inapplicable. It's more like ordering a delicious burger at a famous burger joint and then finding out that you actually ate the veggie burger. Sure, tastes great but you kinda wanted the classic.


More like the burger was buffalo that didn't taste that much different but you hated it just because.


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post Sep 23 2013, 9:08 pm
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QUOTE(themaestro @ Sep 23 2013, 7:28 pm) *


More like the burger was buffalo that didn't taste that much different but you hated it just because.


Your analogy is the same as mine. Still not ego preservation, whatever that means.


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post Sep 23 2013, 9:26 pm
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Sep 23 2013, 9:08 pm) *

Your analogy is the same as mine. Still not ego preservation, whatever that means.


I don't have the desire or time to break down exactly how it's ego preservation for many but it is. Holding onto their perception of Live so strongly as to denounce anything but what fits their definition is rooted in what it means to their ego.


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post Sep 23 2013, 10:34 pm
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QUOTE(themaestro @ Sep 23 2013, 10:26 pm) *


I don't have the desire or time to break down exactly how it's ego preservation for many but it is. Holding onto their perception of Live so strongly as to denounce anything but what fits their definition is rooted in what it means to their ego.


So you're "preserving ego" w. Chris

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QUOTE(Bremang @ Sep 23 2013, 10:34 pm) *

So you're "preserving ego" w. Chris



Hardly. I had no knowledge of him or connection to his music. I also had a strong connection to Ed in Live. It was actually the suspension of my ego that allowed me to enjoy Chris in Live. I found myself not enjoying it prior to that.


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You're currently holding your perception of Live with Chris and denouncing anything but. That falls under your definition of preserving ego. I appreciate that you're enjoying the new band, but it's not so much of an ego thing, as it is a preference in performers. You're also saying that Chris is likable, but as it was said before, Ed is a unique musician and a unique person, and some people prefer and expect to see him.

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post Sep 23 2013, 11:53 pm
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Sep 23 2013, 11:30 pm) *

You're currently holding your perception of Live with Chris and denouncing anything but. That falls under your definition of preserving ego. I appreciate that you're enjoying the new band, but it's not so much of an ego thing, as it is a preference in performers. You're also saying that Chris is likable, but as it was said before, Ed is a unique musician and a unique person, and some people prefer and expect to see him.


I didn't denounce anything and it's impossible to preserve my ego with something that doesn't have some meaning or connection to it. However, with Ed, people have all sorts of personal definitions wrapped up in the years of experiencing his music. There's all sorts of reasons not to want to ever hear someone else performing those songs. And to some it's just as simple as it being drilled into their head for years after thousands of times hearing Throwing Copper. Whatever it may be, their reason not to accept Chris is based on that and nothing else. And that is preserving their ego. Their ego or self as they know it is defined by those images of Ed in Live. We're all defined by our ego to some degree. Many hold on to it, defend it, feed it and embrace it. Others look to free themselves and experience life without the filters that come with ego.


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Whether you limit yourself, or tell yourself you're free, anytime you defend yourself, that is your ego. You are doing it right now when you defend the acceptance of Chris.

Here's a quote:
I'm glad I don't live within the self imposed boundaries that define so many. "It's supposed to be this way or that way". No it isn't.

the moment you said "no it isn't" that was your ego preservation. The ego still governs all those who believe that they are anti-ego.

Look at me, I'm the greatest now that I have no ego.

The buzzword "ego" has been given a pejorative meaning when in fact its not as complex as you make it out to be. Sure, alot of pride and ego can prevent people from making certain choices, but sometimes people make choices merely based on personal preference.

You say ego is only reason why people wouldn't accept chris, "that and nothing else." Wrong. Some people don't like his voice, and don't know him. When Chris is singing Ed's lyrics, he has know idea what the words are about...those are also reasons why some people do not prefer him.

How about this...let's say the sexiest woman in the world is going to give you a blowjob. However, she'll only do it if you blindfold yourself and wear earmuffs. After you put on the blindfold and earmuffs, lets switch out the sexiest woman ever and replace her with some dude who gives exceptional head. When he's all finished with you and you had a great time, let's take your blindfold off, and you can ponder whether your ego is keeping you from the truth, or in fact you simply have a preference.

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post Sep 24 2013, 2:21 am
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"Ed is a unique musician and a unique person" - nah, I doubt that. He WAS a unique musician, now he is just like everybody else. Let's not argue about that. I think that's pretty much a fact.


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QUOTE(figure8 @ Sep 24 2013, 3:21 am) *
"Ed is a unique musician and a unique person" - nah, I doubt that. He WAS a unique musician, now he is just like everybody else. Let's not argue about that. I think that's pretty much a fact.


so boring. another person taking their opinion and calling it fact.


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