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> Ed Kowalczyk = Douche bag and you can't deny it.....
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post Sep 13 2013, 1:30 pm
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QUOTE(mattyeagles @ Sep 13 2013, 2:22 pm) *

fair enough, tough to argue with that...SFBM was really bad, Alive had its moments but was mostly forgettable...really like the new CD though


Yeah. Had he thought out his moves a bit better during that era, Live would probably still be alive today. He took sole control of the direction of the band and look what happened. It has left us this.


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post Sep 13 2013, 2:38 pm
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QUOTE(mattyeagles @ Sep 13 2013, 12:40 pm) *

Chad's lack of discretion is what has caused the divide in the Live community for the past 4 years...if he was a professional and get kept his view of Live's dirty laundry to himself, these insufferable conversations wouldnt exist


I saw the nailed it and could not resist after just seeing this! hahhaaa

Nailed it!

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post Sep 14 2013, 3:46 am
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QUOTE(Live4Life @ Sep 13 2013, 9:38 pm) *

I saw the nailed it and could not resist after just seeing this! hahhaaa

Nailed it!

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post Sep 14 2013, 7:25 am
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Sep 7 2013, 8:53 pm) *

Lawsuit is over, so now he can finally speak his mind.


Speak your mind and just plain LYING is a different thing.


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post Sep 14 2013, 7:36 am
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You know what? Ed even wrote 90% of the new album LIVE is writing atm so far. Without even being there. Yeah, that's stunning, huh? really! But don't tell anyone. Ed says he wants to move on.


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post Sep 14 2013, 10:12 am
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For those of you that actually believe Ed's nonsense, do you think that CCP contributed next to nothing to The Gracious Few as well?


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post Sep 14 2013, 10:37 am
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QUOTE(themaestro @ Sep 14 2013, 11:12 am) *

For those of you that actually believe Ed's nonsense, do you think that CCP contributed next to nothing to The Gracious Few as well?


Hahah you're really trying to stir the pot...I thought gracious few was coming out with a new album march 2013..how'd that go? Guess they were too busy not writing new music for Live..

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QUOTE(mattyeagles @ Sep 14 2013, 10:37 am) *

Hahah you're really trying to stir the pot...I thought gracious few was coming out with a new album march 2013..how'd that go? Guess they were too busy not writing new music for Live..


You mean taking their time to craft an album that is worthy of being placed amongst their early work instead of spitting out generic pop rock.


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post Sep 14 2013, 3:53 pm
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Again, Eds doing his thing, he got what he wanted in the end, to do HIS music HIS way.

3 tours, 1 ep and 2 full albums later....and we still wait...for something...anything ...from live 2.0. Nothing.

Yeah. Ed wins. He has done nothing but prove himself and that he def still has it in him to write great songs. The new album is amazing.

Some of you know it and are just too damned stupid to admit it. I can bet 10 bucks most of you already got it and are rocking out to it. happy.gif

Truth.

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QUOTE(themaestro @ Sep 14 2013, 12:04 pm) *

You mean taking their time to craft an album that is worthy of being placed amongst their early work instead of spitting out generic pop rock.



They can take all the time they want....all the while fans flock to eds "generic pop rock" .


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post Sep 14 2013, 6:37 pm
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QUOTE(Live4Life @ Sep 14 2013, 3:54 pm) *

They can take all the time they want....all the while fans flock to eds "generic pop rock" .


enjoy the pop rock! there's nothing wrong with it if you do so. Really.

But please don't compare that simple uncreative music to projects Chad, Chad and Patrick worked, and still are working, on. Completely different worlds.


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post Sep 14 2013, 6:41 pm
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QUOTE(Live4Life @ Sep 14 2013, 3:53 pm) *


Yeah. Ed wins.


ha, what? Are you making a competition out of it as well already? What is this silly thing, guys? facepalm.gif

So...
Yeah let's do Katy Perry single VS the new Soundgarden songs!
oh and Eminem's stuff VS the Red Hot Chili Peppers' ("they are soooo bad, because they haven't released a new studio album in 2 years!" rolleyes.gif )


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post Sep 14 2013, 7:15 pm
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I don't want to band wagon here and i sure am sick of the constant deviations from every topic imaginable into Ed and live break up land "hey did u hear about Syria using chemical weapons? No but that prick kowalzcyk got up n left Live"

Its been literally 4 years or so now.....

Anyway i think that Ed is fulfilling his obligations toward us pretty well as an artist he is releasing new music regularly, had maintained his minor levels of fan engagement and apart from a few recent G rated jabs at Live up until now regardless of His own past conduct has been pretty professional and stoic about the whole thing.

Ed has not ranted or raved on twitter, facebook or blog & he hasn't called liVe out for their music or lack thereof...

And while i definitely think there is something to be said for being in a band and splitting equally unless that is always prior agreed upon. Each booklet from TDTH on specifically states "music & lyrics" Ed kowalczyk - "all songs by Ed kowalczyk" "performed by LiVe".

I could play drums to every live track since samadhi and i would have no right to ask anything beyond a session musician fee unless i brought some new ideas in or it was pre-arranged that i got a fair cut of the profits of the songs ed wrote.

V's Booklet says "All songs written by Ed Kowalzcyk, performed by LIVE"

TDTH says same excepting RTTW WFG VL and TSUFL - clearly indicating that CCP wanted some credit where and when it was due. But if Ed has completed a song n all they do is play along he is entitled to claim it as his own.

Chad claims lakinis juice riff, PLOTR n Selling T D....He claims those cuz he wrote them. Ed has the right to claim the others. Especially if in the case of SFBM where chad admits not even "writing his own guitar parts" - how is that contributing?

Having said all that: i hVe no doubt in my mind that Ed K was at times incredibly hard to deal with and increasingly distant when it comes to band relations and group writing.


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post Sep 14 2013, 8:43 pm
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QUOTE(SecretInsomnia @ Sep 14 2013, 7:41 pm) *

ha, what? Are you making a competition out of it as well already? What is this silly thing, guys? facepalm.gif

So...
Yeah let's do Katy Perry single VS the new Soundgarden songs!
oh and Eminem's stuff VS the Red Hot Chili Peppers' ("they are soooo bad, because they haven't released a new studio album in 2 years!" rolleyes.gif )


Well everyone keeps saying how ccp are wining and blah blah blah, just thought i'd chime in with the children. Not me that started saying it...read the fucking board.


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QUOTE(SecretInsomnia @ Sep 14 2013, 7:37 pm) *

enjoy the pop rock! there's nothing wrong with it if you do so. Really.

But please don't compare that simple uncreative music to projects Chad, Chad and Patrick worked, and still are working, on. Completely different worlds.


Well, until the others produce ANYTHING i certainly will my friend. I certainly will.


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