Live have shown little loyalty to their fans Options

[Beardan]

I dont know all the details of Live's break up. I have seen and read a few different things over the last year or two. Although the details for me are not totally clear, I cant help but feel these four blokes have let people like you and I down.

I also think the time has come for things to change. For things to become clearer and for the four original Live members to stop the nonsense.

This is what i understand to have happened. I could be wrong and i may not know details. So this is from my perspective from what i know.

*Ed said he quit Live to refresh and put new energy into his music.
* There were reports Ed wanted more money cause he was the lead singer before they split at one particular concert.
* Ed went solo, TGF released an album. Chads and Pat suid or are still suing Ed over something childish.
* Chris Shinn is now Ed. They may be called Live but he is singing Ed's lyrics. That just seems wrong to me.

I could be wrong but i think these blokes owe us more. Ive seen Live/Ed 12 times. I own all their albums. I dont expect anything more than the simple truth on what happened to my favourite band. I dont think that has ever been said. If it has then I havent heard it.

It looks like they will go their separate ways from here. Which happens. Friends from school now not being friends isnt a first in life, and wont be a last. But the foolish suing each other thing is embarrassing.

I dont know if it sounds weird but you feel that following this band you are part of the community that makes up its support. You show them a loyalty through your support and I dont think its too much to ask for some back. Right now I think the band has shown little loyalty to their fans.

[SJN1279]

I dont know all the details of Live's break up. I have seen and read a few different things over the last year or two. Although the details for me are not totally clear, I cant help but feel these four blokes have let people like you and I down.

I also think the time has come for things to change. For things to become clearer and for the four original Live members to stop the nonsense.

This is what i understand to have happened. I could be wrong and i may not know details. So this is from my perspective from what i know.

*Ed said he quit Live to refresh and put new energy into his music.
* There were reports Ed wanted more money cause he was the lead singer before they split at one particular concert.
* Ed went solo, TGF released an album. Chads and Pat suid or are still suing Ed over something childish.
* Chris Shinn is now Ed. They may be called Live but he is singing Ed's lyrics. That just seems wrong to me.

I could be wrong but i think these blokes owe us more. Ive seen Live/Ed 12 times. I own all their albums. I dont expect anything more than the simple truth on what happened to my favourite band. I dont think that has ever been said. If it has then I havent heard it.

It looks like they will go their separate ways from here. Which happens. Friends from school now not being friends isnt a first in life, and wont be a last. But the foolish suing each other thing is embarrassing.

I dont know if it sounds weird but you feel that following this band you are part of the community that makes up its support. You show them a loyalty through your support and I dont think its too much to ask for some back. Right now I think the band has shown little loyalty to their fans.

20 years is a long time for any partnership(especially a band). Breaking up after all that time is fine, but I feel the lawsuit is ridiculous and petty.

[Bremang]

Not all of the claims are petty.

If I recall, there is a claim that Ed kept one million dollars to himself for a signing bonus, that belonged to all members of the band. If this is true, then obviously Ed owes hundreds of thousands of dollars.

However, CCP are suing Ed for millions for Ed's bootlegs that he sells on his website. Who on earth actually buys those things?

But then a new complaint was about how Ed was using the name Live. Kinda silly IMO to get bent out of shape about that.

This post has been edited by Bremang: Apr 20 2013, 1:14 pm

[SJN1279]

Not all of the claims are petty.

If I recall, there is a claim that Ed kept one million dollars to himself for a signing bonus, that belonged to all members of the band. If this is true, then obviously Ed owes hundreds of thousands of dollars.

However, CCP are suing Ed for millions for Ed's bootlegs that he sells on his website. Who on earth actually buys those things?

But then a new complaint was about how Ed was using the name Live. Kinda silly IMO to get bent out of shape about that.

I know nothing about the first claim, but the last two are beyond ridiculous(especially for the amount). Especially since Ed is now being billed as former lead singer of Live, and selling out venues anyway. If I were CCP, I would want Ed to be billed as of Live to help sell tickets to their own shows.

[themaestro]

I dont know all the details of Live's break up. I have seen and read a few different things over the last year or two. Although the details for me are not totally clear, I cant help but feel these four blokes have let people like you and I down.

I also think the time has come for things to change. For things to become clearer and for the four original Live members to stop the nonsense.

This is what i understand to have happened. I could be wrong and i may not know details. So this is from my perspective from what i know.

*Ed said he quit Live to refresh and put new energy into his music.
* There were reports Ed wanted more money cause he was the lead singer before they split at one particular concert.
* Ed went solo, TGF released an album. Chads and Pat suid or are still suing Ed over something childish.
* Chris Shinn is now Ed. They may be called Live but he is singing Ed's lyrics. That just seems wrong to me.

I could be wrong but i think these blokes owe us more. Ive seen Live/Ed 12 times. I own all their albums. I dont expect anything more than the simple truth on what happened to my favourite band. I dont think that has ever been said. If it has then I havent heard it.

It looks like they will go their separate ways from here. Which happens. Friends from school now not being friends isnt a first in life, and wont be a last. But the foolish suing each other thing is embarrassing.

I dont know if it sounds weird but you feel that following this band you are part of the community that makes up its support. You show them a loyalty through your support and I dont think its too much to ask for some back. Right now I think the band has shown little loyalty to their fans.

In order to be loyal to the fans they have to be loyal to themselves first. That's exactly what they are doing now. If anything, they probably stayed together too long. If they had really stood up for what they believed in perhaps they would have split sooner or at least taken a break. You can't fault them for that though as they did what they thought was right at the time. Right now it seems evident they are doing what they should and the fans should accept that. Like it or not, it's right for them. If you don't like the music too bad. Make your own music then. No band makes music based on what the fans want. They make what they want. That's why fans like them in the first place.

[SJN1279]

In order to be loyal to the fans they have to be loyal to themselves first. That's exactly what they are doing now. If anything, they probably stayed together too long. If they had really stood up for what they believed in perhaps they would have split sooner or at least taken a break. You can't fault them for that though as they did what they thought was right at the time. Right now it seems evident they are doing what they should and the fans should accept that. Like it or not, it's right for them. If you don't like the music too bad. Make your own music then. No band makes music based on what the fans want. They make what they want. That's why fans like them in the first place.

I think it is time for the feud to end and we all move on.

[themaestro]

I think it is time for the feud to end and we all move on.

So move on then.

[SinfulEyes]

So move on then.

politicians. No wonder they are hated so.

[Badman]

But then a new complaint was about how Ed was using the name Live. Kinda silly IMO to get bent out of shape about that.

It's completely unfair for Ed to use the LIVE name when he left the band and the band is performing new material at shows and has a tour coming up. It would be like Ozzy leaving Black Sabbath to do his own thing but calling himself Black Sabbath while Black Sabbath is touring with Dio as the singer and making new stuff.

CC&P might not win big on the bootleg thing but they are going to get a large settlement from Ed for the use of their trademark name.

[zmanpga]

you must have been hibernating cause your facts stink


there is no reuniting
there is a new tour
with a new front man
Ed quit the band to start a solo gig
CCP moved on, tried many times to reunite Ed said no
so they moved on
we have
and so should you

This post has been edited by zmanpga: Apr 21 2013, 4:20 am

[zmanpga]

I know nothing about the first claim, but the last two are beyond ridiculous(especially for the amount). Especially since Ed is now being billed as former lead singer of Live, and selling out venues anyway. If I were CCP, I would want Ed to be billed as of Live to help sell tickets to their own shows.

another stupid comment from Nick

[zmanpga]

I think it is time for the feud to end and we all move on.

it has ended and we have moved on, dickweed's havent

[Bremang]

you must have been hibernating cause your facts stink


there is no reuniting
there is a new tour
with a new front man
Ed quit the band to start a solo gig
CCP moved on, tried many times to reunite Ed said no
so they moved on
we have
and so should you

and CCP sued Ed

[SJN1279]

CC&P might not win big on the bootleg thing but they are going to get a large settlement from Ed for the use of their trademark name.

How can they prove damages for that? When Ed was using the trademark, Live 2.0 didn't tour or exist. If anything, Ed kept Live's name out in public view.

Now that Live 2.0 is gearing up for a tour, Ed is being billed as the former singer of Live. I believe that is one thing that was actually agreed upon from their settlement meeting.

[themaestro]

How can they prove damages for that? When Ed was using the trademark, Live 2.0 didn't tour or exist. If anything, Ed kept Live's name out in public view. You're making the case for them with statements like that.

Now that Live 2.0 is gearing up for a tour, Ed is being billed as the former singer of Live. I believe that is one thing that was actually agreed upon from their settlement meeting.