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post Jul 26 2012, 2:42 pm
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post Jul 26 2012, 2:51 pm
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QUOTE(dangum @ Jul 26 2012, 10:46 am) *

Here is a PDF link to the claims CCP are making against Ed re: his use of "Live". 16 pages of it.
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/medi...20(4736288).PDF

I'm not 100% sure, but it looks like they don't want Ed to reference "Live" in his promotion at all.
ie. he can't even say "Ed Kowalczyk former Live frontman".

What's also interesting is that according to the document Ed was kicked out of Live in late 2009. This was early on in the hiatus period.

Original article: http://www.flipsidepa.com/entertainment/ci...mer-lead-singer


Don't get what's wrong with ''Former Live frontman''.
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post Jul 26 2012, 2:56 pm
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QUOTE(+AllOverMe+ @ Jul 26 2012, 2:51 pm) *

Don't get what's wrong with ''Former Live frontman''.


Ed is so bad and so damaging to the brand of Live that CCP don't want him anywhere near it.
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post Jul 26 2012, 3:29 pm
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QUOTE(+AllOverMe+ @ Jul 26 2012, 2:51 pm) *

Don't get what's wrong with ''Former Live frontman''.


It's possible they could prevent him from using the Live trademark. He has no legal ownership of it. Even though it says former, the Live trademark is still being used to promote his shows. Otherwise he wouldn't need to use it at all. It would be pretty ironic if he had to license it to use it.
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post Jul 26 2012, 3:35 pm
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QUOTE(themaestro @ Jul 26 2012, 3:29 pm) *

It's possible they could prevent him from using the Live trademark. He has no legal ownership of it. Even though it says former, the Live trademark is still being used to promote his shows. Otherwise he wouldn't need to use it at all. It would be pretty ironic if he had to license it to use it.


And I bet he would because he has already proven he thinks he can't make it on just his name alone.
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post Jul 26 2012, 3:39 pm
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QUOTE(+AllOverMe+ @ Jul 26 2012, 2:51 pm) *

Don't get what's wrong with ''Former Live frontman''.



ED KOWALCZYK formerly OF LIVE


That's the principle behind Ed using the name Live, even if the font of all the letters were the same size. "Formerly of" is nothing but a back door into continuing to use the name Live to promote your own career. It's a semantic difference.

Look at it this way. What if EK got some success and fame from his tour. How kindly do you think he'd take to one of his touring musicians or the guys he uses to record his albums using his name to prop up their project? "Formerly of Ed Kowalczyk". Stupid example, yes, but you get my point.

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post Jul 26 2012, 3:49 pm
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QUOTE(PillarOfDavidson @ Jul 26 2012, 3:39 pm) *

ED KOWALCZYK formerly OF LIVE
That's the principle behind Ed using the name Live, even if the font of all the letters were the same size. "Formerly of" is nothing but a back door into continuing to use the name Live to promote your own career. It's a semantic difference.

Look at it this way. What if EK got some success and fame from his tour. How kindly do you think he'd take to one of his touring musicians or the guys he uses to record his albums using his name to prop up their project? "Formerly of Ed Kowalczyk". Stupid example, yes, but you get my point.


Especialy if said musician signed secret contracts and demanded a "musician bonus" and screwed Ed over and disrespected him in about 30 other different ways.

Doubt Ed would want him to make money off his name.
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QUOTE(World Dreamer @ Jul 26 2012, 3:49 pm) *

Especialy if said musician signed secret contracts and demanded a "musician bonus" and screwed Ed over and disrespected him in about 30 other different ways.

Doubt Ed would want him to make money off his name.


Yep... aggressive.gif
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Side note....Deep Enough (Club Mix) just popped up on my iTunes shuffle. Fuck, it is bad.


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QUOTE(dangum @ Jul 26 2012, 4:46 am) *

Here is a PDF link to the claims CCP are making against Ed re: his use of "Live". 16 pages of it.
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/medi...20(4736288).PDF

I'm not 100% sure, but it looks like they don't want Ed to reference "Live" in his promotion at all.
ie. he can't even say "Ed Kowalczyk former Live frontman".

What's also interesting is that according to the document Ed was kicked out of Live in late 2009. This was early on in the hiatus period.

Original article: http://www.flipsidepa.com/entertainment/ci...mer-lead-singer


Those are nicely written papers. Ed looks like he's pretty screwed! Paragraph #55 is my favorite!
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QUOTE(Pokey @ Jul 26 2012, 2:02 pm) *


Well, that doesn't make any sense smile.gif


It does though. Obviously the debate largely surrounds the language "of Live." So with just the slightest sense of humor you can make sense out of it.


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post Jul 27 2012, 2:19 am
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QUOTE(PillarOfDavidson @ Jul 27 2012, 12:39 am) *

What if EK got some success and fame from his tour. How kindly do you think he'd take to one of his touring musicians or the guys he uses to record his albums using his name to prop up their project? "Formerly of Ed Kowalczyk".

We discussed it a year or so ago about Ramy, who could demand "the lead drummer bonus" and tour as Ramy, formerly of The Koqalczyks
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post Jul 27 2012, 2:52 am
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Jul 27 2012, 2:24 pm) *

It does though. Obviously the debate largely surrounds the language "of Live." So with just the slightest sense of humor you can make sense out of it.


Gee a sense of humour is the one thing I've been missing around, I'm always so super serious about everything!!

I understand perfectly well what you meant by it, If it made sense it would be funnier, but it fell flat smile.gif

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