The Biggest Challenge For Live's Future Success Is... Options

[FishOutaWater]

In my opinion, the biggest challenge to Live's future success is the fact that sadly, for some reason that I don't understand, Rock seems to be almost dead. A rock band cannot get any traction anymore, unless it has a 30 year following like Van Halen, Springstein, U2, Metallica, etc. Apart from the Foo Fighters, Rock n' Roll has been gradually relegated to a specialty genre like jazz and blues. R & B and auto-tune vocalists who are not artists have completely taken over the charts and the record industry is a complete disaster. To me it is really sad because modern music has no heart and soul anymore. And to me, this is the biggest challenge to Live becoming successful again. I would like to see Live be a part of a movement to make rock relevant again.

[World Dreamer]

In my opinion, the biggest challenge to Live's future success is the fact that sadly, for some reason that I don't understand, Rock seems to be almost dead. A rock band cannot get any traction anymore, unless it has a 30 year following like Van Halen, Springstein, U2, Metallica, etc. Apart from the Foo Fighters, Rock n' Roll has been gradually relegated to a specialty genre like jazz and blues. R & B and auto-tune vocalists who are not artists have completely taken over the charts and the record industry is a complete disaster. To me it is really sad because modern music has no heart and soul anymore. And to me, this is the biggest challenge to Live becoming successful again. I would like to see Live be a part of a movement to make rock relevant again.

I don't know how but the current generation that fuels the demand for what is now on the radio is full of stupid people.

[World Dreamer]

Even the rock that is on the radio is more or less the same shit on the pop stations but with guitars. There isn't anything on the radio that means anything. It is ALL about women, money, how awesome they are, drugs, etc etc etc.

It is all just worthless. It isn't creative or meaningful.

[themaestro]

In my opinion, the biggest challenge to Live's future success is the fact that sadly, for some reason that I don't understand, Rock seems to be almost dead. A rock band cannot get any traction anymore, unless it has a 30 year following like Van Halen, Springstein, U2, Metallica, etc. Apart from the Foo Fighters, Rock n' Roll has been gradually relegated to a specialty genre like jazz and blues. R & B and auto-tune vocalists who are not artists have completely taken over the charts and the record industry is a complete disaster. To me it is really sad because modern music has no heart and soul anymore. And to me, this is the biggest challenge to Live becoming successful again. I would like to see Live be a part of a movement to make rock relevant again.

Sadly the only true format anymore is Pop. You'll also never hear any rap acts like a modern Public Enemy or classic country artists like Waylon Jennings. It's all Pop. Every now and then there's a glimmer of hope with someone original like Black Keys, but it's not often. Most of the indie scene rebels against the Pop scene so they are really separate with few avenues to reach mainstream unless you cater to Pop. There's plenty of good indie music out there but will they be able to sustain a career? The role model right now is OK Go. They are doing better financially than they ever would on a major label. They have been marketing geniuses and it has actually brought them to the mainstream without compromising their integrity.

This post has been edited by themaestro: May 17 2012, 11:16 am

[+Ed+]

Alter Bridge gathered 11 thousand people for their DVD gig in Manchester.

I actually do not think rock is THAT dead. I have been hearing people about its death since... I dunno... since I was born. And that is about 30 years already.

[thefunkyredcaboose]

Alter Bridge gathered 11 thousand people for their DVD gig in Manchester.

I actually do not think rock is THAT dead. I have been hearing people about its death since... I dunno... since I was born. And that is about 30 years already.

I tend to agree, I hear some killer rock music every day.

Is it dead in the major outlets? Sure, but that's not where Live needs to go.

[Badman]

I think it is less pop music and more electronic music that is really defining music right now. Indie and pop have this component in common. There is something about electronic music that breaks the boundaries of the traditional 4 piece band. Another benefit is oftentimes they only have to pay one guy. One of my favorite artists publishes under the name hot sugar and uses loops of weird things like skulls cracking, hurricanes, and rat's heartbeats to make music that gives me something quite distinct. They would be more an indie group but on the pop side Kesha releases songs like Sleazy which are far more danceable than most 4 piece rock bands could muster. How can they compete? I don't think people like to think deeply about music these days.

This post has been edited by Badman: May 17 2012, 1:20 pm

[FishOutaWater]

I would be interested in reading a discussion of what others think is the biggest challenge for the future success of Live. I think that, like TGF, the issue is not going to be with the quality of the music or the performances. I just think that good rock bands today struggle to find an outlet and to find inroads into the hearts and minds and iPods of the listening public. Were it not for this one frustrating factor, I think that Live could climb the summit once again. If, for example, there was an MTV Unplugged that still exists, and Live could get on there today to perform their old songs and some new songs, I believe that they could sell themselves.

[thefunkyredcaboose]

I would be interested in reading a discussion of what others think is the biggest challenge for the future success of Live. I think that, like TGF, the issue is not going to be with the quality of the music or the performances. I just think that good rock bands today struggle to find an outlet and to find inroads into the hearts and minds and iPods of the listening public. Were it not for this one frustrating factor, I think that Live could climb the summit once again. If, for example, there was an MTV Unplugged that still exists, and Live could get on there today to perform their old songs and some new songs, I believe that they could sell themselves.

The target demographic for people to actually by music are the younger folks. They aren't going to want to see a bunch of forty year old guys playing '90s rock music. In order for Live to "climb the summit" they would need to get a little plastic surgery done and make awful music.

That's just the way it is. TGF had some damn fine promotional opportunities but they were mishandled. If Live can get those same opportunities and handle them better we could see them playing to some nice mid-level size crowds again. I doubt you see them busting the charts though.

This post has been edited by thefunkyredcaboose: May 17 2012, 2:25 pm

[FishOutaWater]

The target demographic for people to actually by music are the younger folks. They aren't going to want to see a bunch of forty year old guys playing '90s rock music.

In order for Live to "climb the summit" they would need to get a little plastic surgery done and make awful music.

That's just the way it is. TGF had some damn fine promotional opportunities but they were grossly mishandled. If Live can get those same opportunities and handle them better we could see them playing to some nice mid-level size crowds again. I doubt you see them busting the charts though.

I am afraid you're right. Now I am depressed.

[Sonic Tonic]

In order for Live to "climb the summit" they would need to get a little plastic surgery done and make awful music.

This is true. Image and looks is a big factor. Like the pretty boy pop bands of the 90s now you have pretty "rock" boy bands. With their perfectly groomed scruffy beards and perfectly styled messy hair.

[thefunkyredcaboose]

This is true. Image and looks is a big factor. Like the pretty boy pop bands of the 90s now you have pretty "rock" boy bands. With their perfectly groomed scruffy beards and perfectly styled messy hair.

You had those in the '90s too, but the grungy look was "in" just like the hairspray look of the '80s.

[thefunkyredcaboose]

I am afraid you're right. Now I am depressed.

Sorry man.

[OutToDry]

Rock is thought of to be dead....it's not....it's supressed. I think it will eventually force itself back into the limelight as bands (Acting in unison) force themselves to be heard. The music industry will change again, and our ROck will be heard!!

[Sonic Tonic]

You had those in the '90s too, but the grungy look was "in" just like the hairspray look of the '80s.

Indeed. A cool sexy look sells.