Candlebox Options

[thefunkyredcaboose]

What's most telling is that selling under 10,000 copies gets you in the Billboard top 100

[possum]

What's most telling is that selling under 10,000 copies gets you in the Billboard top 100

and these are bands with a history of success in the business. tough times to be a new musician...tour, tour, tour.

[OutToDry]

Guess what, no matter the record sales these days......like possum said it's the industry. the big sellers are getting corp backing and $$$ to promote. plus most of it is shit

[thefunkyredcaboose]

I heard Ed sold thousands upon thousands of albums from his merch table after shows. Maybe Candlebox should get a merch table.

[themaestro]

The 90's were an aberration. Prior to that, stations played what they were paid to play. Label reps threw around money and coke and got their artists played. The alternative revolution exposed the world to a ton of music they wouldn't have otherwise heard outside of college radio. Unfortunately, the labels and the industry corporatized the indie world and shoved the true artists back to the indie scene. That may be alright and tolerable for up and coming bands but for 90's acts that hit it big and are older these days it's a tough pill to swallow. After having that much success and notoriety to have to basically rely on grass roots marketing to make a go of it is tough. Just look at TGF.

[OutToDry]

Love Stories is on a lot of the BB charts (82 on top 200), plus:



All debuts:

Top Hard Rock Albums #7

Top Modern Rock/Alternative Albums #16

Top Rock Albums #25

Top Independent Albums #12

Top Current Albums #78




This post has been edited by OutToDry: Apr 13 2012, 1:08 pm

[SJN1279]

Love Stories is on a lot of the BB charts (82 on top 200), plus:
All debuts:

Top Hard Rock Albums #7

Top Modern Rock/Alternative Albums #16

Top Rock Albums #25

Top Independent Albums #12

Top Current Albums #78

Do you think the lack of sales for Candlebox's new album will deter LIVE from releasing a full length new album?

[dancing queen]

I don't think Candlebox's sales have anything to do with what the guys will do as Live.
(I'm answering this as if a normal human asked it)
It's true bands don't sell physical albums like they used to, because it's just to easy to steal them.
If they don't release a whole album, it will be because of the state of the industry, not because of Candlebox or TGF or anything like that.
The fact that they're in the studio (RIGHT NOW!!!! ) and they have a renewed energy and enthusiasm leads me to believe (hope!) that they will release an entire album. and we'll see what happens from there.

but who knows (OTD?)


I love the new Candlebox (just to say something on topic- but I really do!)

[OutToDry]

Do you think the lack of sales for Candlebox's new album will deter LIVE from releasing a full length new album?

Why would us Live fans care about record sales? We don't.......we care about the music. Period!! They will release songs with Chris Shinn and a lot of people will like it alot. The industry has changed. Live won't be tied to some corporate label. They'll do it on their own and if the vibe of the first 2 rehearsal shows is any indication of how the fans loved it.......Sales and Charts don't matter. Give me the music....when I listen to music I am not thinking of dollar signs!!

...and again the CB record is a mix of all different types of song genre's. It was reviewed with those sentiments and I love the contrast of tones and sounds. It's not all hard rock, but in every song there is soul grabbing guitar piece. The remakes are also excellent.

Your baiting questions border on the retarded and stupid. I think I am going to make a audio recording of a dope saying all the crap you've asked and postured over the past 3 years. You are only a hanger on in the Live community do to commercialism. Music is wasted on you.

This post has been edited by OutToDry: Apr 13 2012, 8:24 pm

[Opinechik]

Do you think the lack of sales for Candlebox's new album will deter LIVE from releasing a full length new album?

Hi SJN
Did you happen to notice the OP of this thread is a Mainer... see, we do exist.

Now back to your regularly scheduled CB thread everyone, please excuse the interruption.

[zmanpga]

music industry sucks!!!

NO ONE is booking or selling what they used to

I know some real good players who cant get gigs, etc

CANDLEBOX, THE GRACIOUS FEW AND +LIVE+

are the BEST thing to happen to ROCK & ROLL

I bet they outsell the sellouts anytime!

[thefunkyredcaboose]

Album sales numbers are pretty meaningless now that Spotify exists. Having a physical album is only important for sales at the merch table, because touring is where all the money comes from. Candlebox seems to be doing just fine in that regard, and Live will do fine too.

[+Ed+]

That's the shit. It was pretty normal in Russia 10 years ago when the musician could only get money for touring. Now it is spread worldwide. And I hate it.

That is why no band that is not world known come to my country. A bud of mine saw Alter Bridge in Germany a year ago and he managed to catch Trem after the show. He asked him why they are not coming to Russia. "Noone knows us there. We sold about 10 records in the last 7 years in Russia,"-was the answer.

There are hundreds of people dying to see Alter Bridge here. And we can not do a thing.

[zmanpga]

+ED+, if you ever come to USA, you are welcome to stay at my house, and I am sure we can hook you up with some good people here that would get you some meet and greet tixs also...I live in PA, so any shows here or near new jersey, let me know. as I am sure I will be there also...+LIVE+, The Gracious Few, Candlebox gigs..

This post has been edited by zmanpga: Apr 15 2012, 3:27 pm

[+Ed+]

Z, thank you very much, that is very kind of you. However I sure do doubt I will ever hop over. A very long and a very expensive flight that is. But I hold it in my dreams and will bare your offer in mind. Thanks again, mate, much appreciated!