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sellingthdrama
post Mar 19 2012, 10:42 am
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I just listened to the new versions of AOY and now Lightning Crashes - I don't know how many are available, but I didn't see anyone on the board talking about it yet - which I find shocking.

AOY sounded pretty tight. I'm liking what I'm hearing. It's like talking to an old friend who you haven't seen in years, and they're older now but you connect with them in a newer, better way.


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post Mar 30 2012, 3:10 pm
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Here's the thing. With rare exceptions, nobody posting messages on the internet actually knows Ed or CCP.** These people choose sides based on loyalties and the idea that they know and "like" Ed or whatever. It's funny - these battles over sides are stuck in the very trap that Ed sang about 20 years ago - "I have chosen these anthems of these I am proud. Portraits of a divided crowd." Nick and MVDB don't actually know these people who are members of Live, yet they battle for Ed's honor as if they know him and need to back him up, or attack CCP for what they think they are doing or what they think motivates them. It is delusional to take up battles over the actions and motives of people you don't even know. With a few limited exceptions, we are just a bunch of people out here in the public who listen to music and like this band or Ed. So the only thing that we have any justification in defending and commenting on is the music. And even in that limited space, we only have the authority to express our opinion, our views and reviews of the music - and not state opinion like it is some objective fact.

For me:

1. Live was great with all 4 guys in the bad until the end of the 20th century
2. then Live sucked when Ed took over, with a few exceptions where we know for a fact that CCP had input on the songs
3. then Ed went solo and his solo album stinks
4. then CCP made The Gracious Few, which was awesome
5. now CCP restarted Live with a new lead singer and the shows were awesome and the 4 re-recordings are awesome

I really don't need to study the trends in those statements for very long in order to reach some easy conclusoins about my musical preference and where I will choose to focus my attention. If Ed makes some great music again, I may take notice. Until then, I am a fan of what TGF and Live are doing.


** Interestingly, the few people that actually do know these people personally have chosen loyalty to CCP, and I don't know of any supporter of Ed that posts messages on the internet in support of Ed who actually knows Ed.

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sellingthdrama   Freaks4live.com - Whole Songs Up   Mar 19 2012, 10:42 am
World Dreamer   Good shit.   Mar 19 2012, 10:51 am
possum   Good shit. Wow. Crazy as it sounds but it was a...   Mar 19 2012, 10:53 am
dangum   A recording of I Alone is also available! Edi...   Mar 19 2012, 10:57 am
possum   A recording of I Alone is also available! It...   Mar 19 2012, 10:59 am
possum   It started playing and I was like where did that ...   Mar 19 2012, 11:01 am
+AllOverMe+   It would be awesome if they did Throwing Copper i...   Mar 19 2012, 11:04 am
possum   It's really great!! already 4 tracks ...   Mar 19 2012, 11:05 am
themaestro   Wow, I Alone sounds fantastic!   Mar 19 2012, 11:08 am
+AllOverMe+   Wow, I Alone sounds fantastic! All the trac...   Mar 19 2012, 11:11 am
dangum   MP3s of: Selling the Drama I Alone All Over You Li...   Mar 19 2012, 11:14 am
FishOutaWater   MP3s of: Selling the Drama I Alone All Over You L...   Mar 20 2012, 6:44 am
+AllOverMe+   It does play from my iPhone so I am in heaven rig...   Mar 19 2012, 11:10 am
+AllOverMe+   Wow. Crazy as it sounds but it was almost like t...   Mar 19 2012, 10:59 am
World Dreamer   I can still log in to Homespun. Things are looking...   Mar 19 2012, 10:57 am
+Ed+   Oh, but at LAST! Adam, thank you so very much...   Mar 19 2012, 12:29 pm
World Dreamer   I Alone sounds freaking incredible. I don't k...   Mar 19 2012, 1:06 pm
SecretInsomnia   Sounds great, really! Although I've gotta...   Mar 19 2012, 1:17 pm
+Ed+   I Alone just made me cry. Spn it twice, then gave...   Mar 19 2012, 1:17 pm
World Dreamer   Anyone explain to me how Homespun works? I reset m...   Mar 19 2012, 1:30 pm
OutToDry   Anyone explain to me hour Homespun works? I reset...   Mar 19 2012, 1:38 pm
alexou   wow! It made my day... Must be hard for Chis ...   Mar 19 2012, 1:32 pm
+Ed+   Yea, also would love to know what the new Homespun...   Mar 19 2012, 1:32 pm
OutToDry   Now what was everyone saying they were taking too ...   Mar 19 2012, 1:35 pm
Opinechik   I. do. not. miss. what'shisname. one. l...   Mar 19 2012, 2:00 pm
World Dreamer   I. do. not. miss. what'shisname. one. ...   Mar 19 2012, 2:13 pm
Opinechik   I would like to add that tha EK's website jus...   Mar 19 2012, 2:41 pm
Aitkens   Wow. Keep this stuff coming!   Mar 19 2012, 2:16 pm
sellingthdrama   So I'm listening to the songs a few times over...   Mar 19 2012, 2:17 pm
VoodooLady   So I'm listening to the songs a few times ove...   Mar 19 2012, 2:29 pm
VoodooLady   listening too and doing a happy dance :dance:   Mar 19 2012, 2:22 pm
+Ed+   And what if they rerecord TC :omg: :happy:   Mar 19 2012, 2:26 pm
+AllOverMe+   And what if they rerecord TC :omg: :happy: Wou...   Mar 19 2012, 2:27 pm
+Ed+   C'mon kid, each of your posts contains a cryou...   Mar 19 2012, 2:28 pm
+AllOverMe+   C'mon kid, each of your posts contains a cryo...   Mar 19 2012, 2:59 pm
SinfulEyes   Fucking AWESOME. I am fianlly getting to hear what...   Mar 19 2012, 3:38 pm
Hoodstock   Haha, sorry...you're right, Ed! Will stop...   Mar 19 2012, 3:53 pm
Sonic Tonic   Hate to bust your bubble but just being honest - ...   Mar 19 2012, 6:35 pm
maccaz69   Not mentioning the quality of the performance, th...   Mar 19 2012, 10:53 pm
maccaz69   Ok listened to the rest like I alone and selling t...   Mar 20 2012, 3:03 am
Wildman   Wow, sooooo Cool! Love STD and AOY, fuck lov...   Mar 19 2012, 2:37 pm
Badman   Oh I feel it coming back again...   Mar 19 2012, 4:01 pm
Wambangalang   lightning crashes has always been my favorite song...   Mar 19 2012, 4:41 pm
BERLINONE   Listened to the four songs, thanks for upping them...   Mar 19 2012, 5:32 pm
jayda   Thanks Dan - again. I can now go pick up my kid f...   Mar 19 2012, 11:29 pm
Pokey   God you know what I love? The fact that you miss a...   Mar 20 2012, 12:08 am
sellingthdrama   God you know what I love? The fact that you miss ...   Mar 20 2012, 8:25 am
PurdueSteve   My thoughts on the new (old) tracks, not that anyo...   Mar 20 2012, 8:39 am
sellingthdrama   It is leaps and bounds the most recognizable and ...   Mar 20 2012, 8:54 am
SJN1279   Lightning Crashes sounds like the bad karoke that ...   Mar 20 2012, 9:35 am
+AllOverMe+   What have i said? Shut your mouth. I decided to pu...   Mar 20 2012, 10:02 am
Pokey   What have i said? Shut your mouth. I decided to p...   Mar 20 2012, 10:12 am
+AllOverMe+   You learnt your lesson there, leopard never chang...   Mar 20 2012, 10:16 am
OutToDry   I just listened to them all back to back 4 times. ...   Mar 20 2012, 12:11 am
jayda   I just listened to them all back to back 4 times....   Mar 20 2012, 1:25 am
OutToDry   Only 4 times OTD? You can do better than that...   Mar 20 2012, 4:22 am
+Ed+   You know what surprised me? I get the meaning of L...   Mar 20 2012, 12:51 am
MrSheptical   My favorite of the new songs is Selling The Drama,...   Mar 20 2012, 2:02 am
Benjamin Bachmann   Wow !!! It gives totally a new dimensi...   Mar 20 2012, 3:08 am
+AllOverMe+   The songs are great. I have put them on my Mp3 and...   Mar 20 2012, 3:40 am
thefunkyredcaboose   Songs sound good, the little tweaks are very nice...   Mar 20 2012, 8:08 am
possum   Songs sound good, the little tweaks are very nice...   Mar 20 2012, 8:18 am
dancing queen   I'm so very happy to have these new recordings...   Mar 20 2012, 10:02 am
Benjamin Bachmann   I want more. :nod:   Mar 20 2012, 10:13 am
World Dreamer   I wonder if these 4 tracks were what we were meant...   Mar 20 2012, 10:19 am
thefunkyredcaboose   I wonder if these 4 tracks were what we were mean...   Mar 20 2012, 10:23 am
SJN1279   Maybe album 8 will just be Throwing Copper 2.0.......   Mar 20 2012, 10:30 am
mfitz804   Come on, even the most die hard fans have to adm...   Mar 20 2012, 1:28 pm
SJN1279   For me, hearing the re-recorded tracks is definit...   Mar 20 2012, 1:49 pm
FishOutaWater   With these songs, the website, the shows, the yout...   Mar 20 2012, 10:30 am
possum   With these songs, the website, the shows, the you...   Mar 20 2012, 10:34 am
thefunkyredcaboose   My wife said to me last night "So I guess yo...   Mar 20 2012, 12:51 pm
World Dreamer   I have Nick on ignore but I'm putting a wil...   Mar 20 2012, 10:32 am
FishOutaWater   As of the 12th of this month, the opinions of tha...   Mar 20 2012, 10:37 am
sellingthdrama   When I'm listening to the new Live songs, I...   Mar 20 2012, 1:26 pm
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