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post Feb 20 2012, 7:36 pm
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Hey, Ed's a pretty smart guy, so he thinks anyway. He seems like a very intelligent person to seek out the meaning of it all. So here's the rub.......Live is a paradox in terms of success, popularity, their deep brotherly bond which allowed their music to transcend the masses. The music in their early years, the collaboration of true brothers!!! Ah it was great. Maybe as the Thrill says....door's open, but the prodigal son must go through his life trials to see where he may have messed up. The New Live will approach us with much skepticism, but I think open minds will find what they're looking for. I wanted to take a glance over Live's history of popularity and success, and mix in the hidden variable which ultimately did in this brotherhood. I took to a little scientific research and figured it all out!!! I wish I had a sacrafont....but here goes.



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QUOTE(OutToDry @ Feb 26 2012, 12:55 pm) *

Pokey spelled it out....you're either too stubborn or mental to u understand all projects are active and will be in play. You've.been told 10000 times of this but you have a block. Sucks to be you. CC&P have many things irons in the fire, business, philanthropic and band all at once. Touring is all Ed has, period!!! He chose his path, he chose control, he chose alienation......what have you got? NOTHING!!!!


This is an interesting discussion going on right now.  The way i see this board in general is that if you like Ed, you are just factually wrong for liking him.  And if you dont like everything connected to cc&p, you simply have no taste in music and human decency. 

Nick gets way too much attention from you guys.  Buttons pushed easily?  He seems to be good at that.  

I dont think anyone here cant see the fact that cc&p have a lot of irons in the fire.  What i dont understand is why thats looked at as something so grand ( general theme that i see in this board ).  Lots of people juggle multiple things and multiple projects in their lives.  

Has it occurred to to you that what Ed has right now may be what he wants to have?  Does that mean he is unhappy and alienated?  Maybe he's right where he wants to be?  He chose alienation from what?  People he doesn't care to be in a band with anymore?  People who cant let go of the past and appreciate what he has to offer today?  People who have grown in a different direction than he?  People who dont agree with or accept his spiritual feelings and beliefs of today?  He has obviously changed (in some ways) from the boy he was in  the early 1990's. 

Was there not some sort of split agreement years ago between band members?  Who is at fault for trying to stick around?  Dont give me that tired line of cc&p being somehow hollier-than-thou and sticking it out for the good of the band, the friendships, yadda yadda yadda.  Seems to me that Ed has wanted wanted to do his own thing for a while.  I guess he used the more talented musicians while he could?  Maybe he should have just left back then?  Where would that have put everything today? 

I think if more people could understand and appreciate who we all are as individuals, celebrate for people when they follow their calling or have success, and simply hope and pray for those who need it, we'd all be a lot better off.  That might be getting a little too far into the spiritual realm for some though.  

Another beer please. 


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OutToDry   Live / Ed K Paradox   Feb 20 2012, 7:36 pm
briburge   Hey, Ed's a pretty smart guy, so he thinks an...   Feb 20 2012, 9:10 pm
OutToDry   If I did, and I don't...I wouldn't share i...   Feb 20 2012, 9:31 pm
Good_Pain   Excellent work my friend, this could be an early f...   Feb 20 2012, 9:34 pm
jclive   Excellent work my friend, this could be an early ...   Feb 21 2012, 9:01 am
Pokey   Looks about right to me.   Feb 20 2012, 9:57 pm
The Thrill   Well, I have....and Just like many moons ago when ...   Feb 21 2012, 12:39 am
briburge   Well, I have....and Just like many moons ago when...   Feb 21 2012, 8:34 am
Pokey   Tgf vocally was painful so that was a big dissapo...   Feb 21 2012, 9:13 am
jclive   Tgf vocally was painful so that was a big dissapo...   Feb 21 2012, 9:36 am
Merica   Tgf vocally was painful so that was a big dissapo...   Feb 21 2012, 10:32 am
jclive   Moron. :angel: Moron because he didnt like the...   Feb 21 2012, 10:43 am
Merica   Moron because he didnt like the sound of somethin...   Feb 21 2012, 10:47 am
briburge   Moron. :angel: Brilliant response.   Feb 21 2012, 8:08 pm
themaestro   Tgf vocally was painful so that was a big dissapo...   Feb 21 2012, 11:30 am
World Dreamer   Tgf vocally was painful so that was a big dissapo...   Feb 21 2012, 12:04 pm
zmanpga   Tgf vocally was painful so that was a big dissapo...   Feb 21 2012, 7:57 pm
briburge   :no: I will keep my comment but it isnt nice Was...   Feb 21 2012, 8:05 pm
World Dreamer   Regarding the idea that no one ever criticizes CCP...   Feb 22 2012, 12:23 pm
briburge   Regarding the idea that no one ever criticizes CC...   Feb 22 2012, 12:39 pm
OutToDry   lets just not recoil in horror if someone talks ...   Feb 22 2012, 7:34 pm
jaybb   They aren't getting a free ride. Do they get...   Feb 23 2012, 7:02 pm
OutToDry   Batter Up!!!   Feb 21 2012, 12:58 am
OutToDry   Hey ed cork soakers.....this is not a TGF thread.   Feb 21 2012, 12:41 pm
jclive   Hey ed cork soakers.....this is not a TGF thread....   Feb 21 2012, 12:49 pm
briburge   Hey ed cork soakers.....this is not a TGF thread....   Feb 21 2012, 1:45 pm
OutToDry   so i guess ed is still in live since you started...   Feb 21 2012, 7:43 pm
Opinechik   *singing* Kumbaya my friends, Kumbaya.   Feb 21 2012, 2:46 pm
World Dreamer   *singing* Kumbaya my friends, Kumbaya. Sounds l...   Feb 21 2012, 2:49 pm
Opinechik   :D   Feb 21 2012, 2:52 pm
possum   Ed Kowalczyk: I really eased right into it. Being ...   Feb 21 2012, 4:33 pm
OutToDry   king of the bedwetters!!!   Feb 21 2012, 8:39 pm
briburge   king of the bedwetters!!! Keep drink...   Feb 21 2012, 8:46 pm
OutToDry   You missed the whole point of the thread.....sarca...   Feb 21 2012, 8:47 pm
The Thrill   Your opinion, I personally like Candlebox and Kevi...   Feb 21 2012, 8:50 pm
Wambangalang   i know grace and stand did very well in Australia ...   Feb 22 2012, 4:56 am
zmanpga   The Gracious Few aint over by a LONG SHOT! :th...   Feb 22 2012, 6:25 am
zmanpga   it sure is, Kevin Martins voice grew on me more af...   Feb 22 2012, 8:07 pm
Pokey   The thing is it seems that people that bash KM or ...   Feb 22 2012, 11:53 pm
The Thrill   The thing is it seems that people that bash KM or...   Feb 22 2012, 11:56 pm
MrSheptical   I gotta agree with this. Now if everyone took a ...   Feb 24 2012, 8:15 pm
briburge   The thing is it seems that people that bash KM or...   Feb 23 2012, 9:40 am
Pokey   Don't like his voice for tgf. No bashing. ...   Feb 23 2012, 9:43 am
OutToDry   I think both records sold the same overall, TGF mo...   Feb 24 2012, 9:55 pm
SJN1279   I think both records sold the same overall, TGF m...   Feb 24 2012, 9:58 pm
OutToDry   .......you know what? It's confidential!...   Feb 24 2012, 10:07 pm
SJN1279   .......you know what? It's confidential...   Feb 24 2012, 11:02 pm
The Thrill   The fact is that Ed's album greatly outsold T...   Feb 24 2012, 11:11 pm
SJN1279   Nick, what you fail to keep seeing is. Ed toured...   Feb 24 2012, 11:18 pm
The Thrill   You can try to spin it anyway you like, but the f...   Feb 24 2012, 11:26 pm
SJN1279   I can spin this one too...... So when +LIVE+ goe...   Feb 24 2012, 11:34 pm
OutToDry   All talk. The fact is new LIVE hasn't done ...   Feb 24 2012, 11:37 pm
The Thrill   All talk. The fact is new LIVE hasn't done a...   Feb 24 2012, 11:42 pm
OutToDry   TGF did not Give up on touring.... - CBOX had a...   Feb 24 2012, 11:44 pm
SJN1279   TGF did not Give up on touring.... - CBOX had an ...   Feb 24 2012, 11:50 pm
The Thrill   Candlebox is on their own independent label last ...   Feb 24 2012, 11:51 pm
OutToDry   You can try to spin it anyway you like, but the...   Feb 24 2012, 11:27 pm
The Thrill   You can try to spin it anyway you like, but the f...   Feb 24 2012, 11:30 pm
OutToDry   Nick, what you fail to keep seeing is. Ed toure...   Feb 24 2012, 11:26 pm
The Thrill   people said I was loony to state this in July...   Feb 24 2012, 11:28 pm
OutToDry   oh no. I heard that from one of the TOP guys at ...   Feb 24 2012, 11:30 pm
OutToDry   Let me also say to SJN that you claimed TGF was do...   Feb 24 2012, 11:30 pm
The Thrill   Let me also say to SJN that you claimed TGF was d...   Feb 24 2012, 11:32 pm
The Thrill   Let me also say to SJN that you claimed TGF was d...   Feb 24 2012, 11:35 pm
OutToDry   TGF isnt done neither is LIVE. Again, CHAD, CHAD...   Feb 24 2012, 11:38 pm
SJN1279   This is downright correct!!! 100% fa...   Feb 24 2012, 11:41 pm
The Thrill   Can you name one CCP business venture that is act...   Feb 24 2012, 11:45 pm
The Thrill   I can name quite a few since I am their partner i...   Feb 24 2012, 11:50 pm
OutToDry   Where's those dolts who said I was a CT plant?...   Feb 24 2012, 11:34 pm
OutToDry   It's not my business to reveal what they do ...   Feb 24 2012, 11:43 pm
OutToDry   Thrill, he's on record here and proven he...   Feb 24 2012, 11:52 pm
OutToDry   CB is on an EMI/Caroline Records label for their n...   Feb 24 2012, 11:53 pm
SJN1279   CB is on an EMI/Caroline Records label for their ...   Feb 24 2012, 11:56 pm
The Thrill   CB is on an EMI/Caroline Records label for their ...   Feb 24 2012, 11:56 pm
SJN1279   Which is PART of FONTANA Which is another distr...   Feb 25 2012, 12:00 am
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