Live / Ed K Paradox, A visual interpretation Options

[OutToDry]

Hey, Ed's a pretty smart guy, so he thinks anyway. He seems like a very intelligent person to seek out the meaning of it all. So here's the rub.......Live is a paradox in terms of success, popularity, their deep brotherly bond which allowed their music to transcend the masses. The music in their early years, the collaboration of true brothers!!! Ah it was great. Maybe as the Thrill says....door's open, but the prodigal son must go through his life trials to see where he may have messed up. The New Live will approach us with much skepticism, but I think open minds will find what they're looking for. I wanted to take a glance over Live's history of popularity and success, and mix in the hidden variable which ultimately did in this brotherhood. I took to a little scientific research and figured it all out!!! I wish I had a sacrafont....but here goes.





This post has been edited by OutToDry: Feb 20 2012, 7:41 pm

[OutToDry]

.......you know what? It's confidential!!!

[SJN1279]

.......you know what? It's confidential!!!

The fact is that Ed's album greatly outsold TGF's overseas. The album sales were close in the US, but since Ed played and sold CD's at roughly 100 more shows than TGF has, I would think the sales advantage would be in Ed's favor overall.

[The Thrill]

The fact is that Ed's album greatly outsold TGF's overseas. The album sales were close in the US, but since Ed played and sold CD's at roughly 100 more shows than TGF has, I would think the sales advantage would be in Ed's favor overall.

Nick, what you fail to keep seeing is. Ed toured or tried to tour as LIVE and use that name and use those songs 80-90% in every show.

The Gracious Few, did not use their LIVE or Candlebox names. They went out like they were just any band starting out. However, the funny thing about it. A lot of times TGF would play a venue a few weeks after Ed had played it and each venue TGF outsold him in tickets. As a matter of fact at many venues Ed's tickets were given away as freebies. Musikfest in Bethlehem, 90% of the tickets were given away to friends and family of Artsquest and the radio station. At Mt. Airy last week, the casino GAVE away over 200 tickets. These are facts.

[SJN1279]

Nick, what you fail to keep seeing is. Ed toured or tried to tour as LIVE and use that name and use those songs 80-90% in every show.

The Gracious Few, did not use their LIVE or Candlebox names. They went out like they were just any band starting out. However, the funny thing about it. A lot of times TGF would play a venue a few weeks after Ed had played it and each venue TGF outsold him in tickets. As a matter of fact at many venues Ed's tickets were given away as freebies. Musikfest in Bethlehem, 90% of the tickets were given away to friends and family of Artsquest and the radio station. At Mt. Airy last week, the casino GAVE away over 200 tickets. These are facts.

You can try to spin it anyway you like, but the fact is that Ed Kowalczyk is still actively touring, while The Gracious Few haven't toured in over a year.

This post has been edited by SJN1279: Feb 24 2012, 11:19 pm

[The Thrill]

You can try to spin it anyway you like, but the fact is that Ed Kowalczyk is still actively touring, while The Gracious Few haven't toured in over a year.

I can spin this one too...... So when +LIVE+ goes on tour and Im at that show and you & Ed are not at that show and +LIVE+ sells about 10 times or more than EDDIE K - How would you like me to spin that. The train has left the station my man! This is ANOTHER fact.

Oh in addition - TGF is making more coin doing a free show down in South by Southwest than Ed made on his whole tour. When a fortune 100 company like Microsoft come to them and sponsors the show, whats that tell you?

TGF cant go on tour anytime like Ed can.... The boys have been very busy with other business ventures. In addition Candlebox just recorded an album due out in April so obviously TGF couldnt tour without a lead singer. TGF is the side project for both KM and C,C,P - however +LIVE+ is NOT their side project and +LIVE+ without Eddie K will do VERY well.

This post has been edited by The Thrill: Feb 24 2012, 11:27 pm

[SJN1279]

I can spin this one too...... So when +LIVE+ goes on tour and Im at that show and you & Ed are not at that show and +LIVE+ sells about 10 times or more than EDDIE K - How would you like me to spin that. The train has left the station my man! This is ANOTHER fact.

Oh in addition - TGF is making more coin doing a free show down in South by Southwest than Ed made on his whole tour. When a fortune 100 company like Microsoft come to them and sponsors the show, whats that tell you?

TGF can go on tour anytime. The boys have been very busy with other business ventures. In addition Candlebox just recorded an album due out in April so obviously TGF couldnt tour without a lead singer. TGF is the side project for both KM and C,C,P - however +LIVE+ is NOT their side project and +LIVE+ without Eddie K will do VERY well.

All talk. The fact is new LIVE hasn't done anything more than tweet and TGF gave up on touring long ago. One non-headlining show booked in over a years time is nothing to brag about.

A new LIVE will outdraw Ed on name value alone(something that Ed had a lot to do with). The name LIVE is the major draw not CCP.

[The Thrill]

All talk. The fact is new LIVE hasn't done anything more than tweet and TGF gave up on touring long ago. One non-headlining show booked in over a years time is nothing to brag about.

A new LIVE will outdraw Ed on name value alone(something that Ed had a lot to do with). The name LIVE is the major draw not CCP.

TGF did not Give up on touring.... - CBOX had an album to write and support - contractually OBLIGATED by their label.

remember your post and that "all talk" comment. you will be eating your words....OTD, remember this as well and add this to the list of his BS.