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Does Ed Have The Right?
Is it alright for Ed to tour as "Live's Ed Kowalczyk"?
Yes [ 9 ] ** [27.27%]
No [ 22 ] ** [66.67%]
I don't know - I'm on the fence about it [ 2 ] ** [6.06%]
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Hoodstock
post Jan 21 2012, 6:39 pm
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Alright - we're going into the 2012 tour season. Ed has obviously moved on from Live and Live (as we all know) is moving on as a band without Ed. Today I saw this:

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It reads "Live's Ed Kowalczyk". Obviously Ed was a huge part of Live but he's moved on and Live is a band that will be active and touring without him.

Because of what he did for the band does Ed forever have the right to claim that he is "Live's" or do you guys think it would be proper for him to indicate "former" in some way?


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post Jan 22 2012, 10:36 am
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Hence my statement that it's most likely the concert promoters who are doing it. You've been shown the english used is incorrect. Tough to prove it anymore to you though when it's not something you'd accept anyway. I believe each case of using the incorrect verbage is a separate, shall we say incident which can be litigated against.


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post Jan 22 2012, 10:40 am
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I love how the very people who complain about me posting in a LIVE thread because I'm "not a fan," are posting in an Ed K thread.


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post Jan 22 2012, 11:21 am
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jan 23 2012, 2:40 am) *

I love how the very people who complain about me posting in a LIVE thread because I'm "not a fan," are posting in an Ed K thread.


You are nothing short of a blithering idiot.

If this was "hey what do you think of Ed's new song", I probably wouldn't bother posting because I couldn't give a damn. But this relates directly to Live, the band that we're all a fan of, draw the lines.

Anyways, it is absolutely beyond my comprehension that you can't see the difference between "Live's Ed Kowalczyk" and "Formerly of Live". Personally I don't see the massive problem as such because Live, Ed and everyone involved is such small fry. But its a "principal of the thing".

If he were billing himself as "formerly of Live" I doubt anyone here would have a problem because it's a factual statement, he was formerly a massive part of Live. As Aitken's said "Live's" implies possession. That he is CURRENTLY "of Live", which he is not. I don't care if you think it's "not a big deal", that's debatable. But it is categorically incorrect and the fact you can't admit to that just shows what a massive problem you have. Would it really hurt you so much to ever go against Ed? "Yeah I admit he probably shouldn't be billed that way because it's not true, but I don't think it really matters". That is not such a difficult sentence to have to spill out. But nope, Ed does no wrong. I'm sure you just look at it as "good for business".

Seriously, Live - this band about spiritualism, with songs like Mirror Song and your mind is constantly on promotion, money, advertising, what the public thing etc.. I really hope when you see Ed that you don't sing along to the words of "Mirror Song" and pretend that you even begin to have a clue as to what it means.


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Hoodstock   Do You Guy's Have A Problem With This?   Jan 21 2012, 6:39 pm
OutToDry   I believe the issue is the concert promoters at th...   Jan 21 2012, 7:03 pm
SJN1279   I believe the issue is the concert promoters at t...   Jan 21 2012, 8:29 pm
SJN1279   Ed Kowalczyk former lead singer of ...   Jan 21 2012, 8:31 pm
Aitkens   Ed Kowalczyk former lead singer of ...   Jan 21 2012, 11:44 pm
SJN1279   No it's not the same message you moron. ...   Jan 22 2012, 12:08 am
Aitkens   Ed will always be the lead singer of LIVE that pe...   Jan 22 2012, 12:10 am
SJN1279   See, he WAS the lead singer of Live. He IS NOT t...   Jan 22 2012, 12:19 am
Aitkens   However he is still LIVE's Ed Kowalczyk. As ...   Jan 22 2012, 12:22 am
Hoodstock   If LIVE 2.0 every starts up, it will be more bene...   Jan 22 2012, 12:39 pm
Aitkens   Look I get it, you aren't an English teacher, ...   Jan 22 2012, 12:34 am
Pokey   Jesus christ Nick, how hard is it for you to under...   Jan 22 2012, 3:44 am
OutToDry   The venues promotions do it, probably w/o eds know...   Jan 22 2012, 5:33 am
SJN1279   The venues promotions do it, probably w/o eds kno...   Jan 22 2012, 9:53 am
OutToDry   perhaps this statement informs you. Your pass...   Jan 22 2012, 10:20 am
SJN1279   perhaps this statement informs you. Your passiv...   Jan 22 2012, 10:25 am
dancing queen   If it was ILLEGAL as you say, he wouldn't be ...   Jan 23 2012, 2:09 am
SJN1279   Nick, is it a joke that you're a teacher? or ...   Jan 23 2012, 7:20 am
OutToDry   um simpleton, it was a poll which discusses curren...   Jan 22 2012, 10:50 am
Aitkens   Actually this would be a "Live" issue, t...   Jan 22 2012, 10:51 am
Hoodstock   Actually this would be a "Live" issue, ...   Jan 22 2012, 1:15 pm
SJN1279   I put it here because it's about Ed and his t...   Jan 22 2012, 3:16 pm
Pokey   I actually voted no by accident in the poll . ...   Jan 22 2012, 4:50 pm
Aitkens   To quote their facebook page... Nope, no menti...   Jan 22 2012, 4:57 pm
SJN1279   To quote their facebook page... Nope, no mention ...   Jan 22 2012, 5:12 pm
Aitkens   Either way its fine. Ed will continue on. Yes...   Jan 22 2012, 5:16 pm
SJN1279   Yes he will, clinging to the past successes, all ...   Jan 22 2012, 5:18 pm
Aitkens   Um, what do you think CCP are doing trying to bri...   Jan 22 2012, 5:21 pm
SJN1279   The difference is that they aren't lying to e...   Jan 22 2012, 6:44 pm
Aitkens   From LIVE's Facebook: +LIVE+ are back, havin...   Jan 22 2012, 6:58 pm
SJN1279   It's not deception at all. For the people th...   Jan 22 2012, 7:04 pm
Aitkens   Have they posted a status saying they recruited a...   Jan 22 2012, 7:10 pm
SJN1279   They must have, or else we wouldn't know that...   Jan 22 2012, 7:25 pm
Aitkens   They have not. thank you creepy stalker guy.   Jan 22 2012, 7:31 pm
OutToDry   here's your fucking deception asshat (as you l...   Jan 22 2012, 9:36 pm
SJN1279   here's your fucking deception asshat (as you ...   Jan 22 2012, 11:19 pm
OutToDry   The info I pulled is on the main page under LIVE ...   Jan 23 2012, 5:55 am
OutToDry   Show the proof.....oh that's right........ you...   Jan 23 2012, 7:24 am
SJN1279   Show the proof.....oh that's right........ yo...   Jan 23 2012, 8:56 am
Aitkens   I can't prove it, but late night posts that s...   Jan 23 2012, 9:05 am
FishOutaWater   This is borderline, but I don't think I have a...   Jan 23 2012, 11:58 am
World Dreamer   If this points to one thing, it is that Ed needs...   Jan 23 2012, 12:57 pm
SJN1279   And what ticks people off is his claims of wantin...   Jan 23 2012, 1:00 pm
Aitkens   He wanted to move on from the 3 members of LIVE w...   Jan 23 2012, 2:02 pm
World Dreamer   That's not what he said. He said he wanted t...   Jan 23 2012, 2:53 pm
Badman   I'm on the fence for right now. But as soon a...   Jan 23 2012, 2:11 pm
SJN1279   I'm on the fence for right now. But as soon ...   Jan 23 2012, 3:36 pm
World Dreamer   He can still use the moniker and perform the song...   Jan 23 2012, 4:37 pm
Badman   He can still use the moniker and perform the song...   Jan 24 2012, 1:13 pm
SJN1279   But does he own the rights to the songs? Paul Mc...   Jan 24 2012, 1:41 pm
FishOutaWater   Of course he is allowed to perform them in concert...   Jan 24 2012, 2:36 pm
Hoodstock   :stare:   Jan 23 2012, 6:51 pm
Pokey   So Nick, in your mind it's not fine for CCP to...   Jan 24 2012, 3:11 pm
OutToDry   the deception is there according to the little gre...   Jan 24 2012, 8:05 pm
SJN1279   If he chooses to come back and work in total par...   Jan 24 2012, 8:18 pm
Pokey   Which would be ideal for many, at least on a part...   Jan 25 2012, 12:08 am
OutToDry   what do you mean on part time? Solo ops? Sure.....   Jan 24 2012, 8:29 pm
OutToDry   another violation it seems. zman, what up?   Jan 28 2012, 6:14 pm


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