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post Jan 13 2012, 1:57 pm
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Everclear without Art Alexakis
Pumpkins without Billy Corgan
Bush without Gavin Rossdale
3EB without Stephan Jenkins
Nirvana without Kurt

But, don't worry... LIVE has a new singer.

This is a joke right? Complete with a Karaoke singer, how about that?

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...to AS.....what the fuck are you trying to prove here? Who's rewriting history? Your opinion is not based in facts. I'd have to say TC (MJ, SS) were a collaboration of 25% each making Live 100% viable as the phenonmenon it was.....all a well oiled machine. I understand your passion to prop Ed up, but we're not going to agree. I never would take away Ed's amazing efforts from band inception to 2000......never ever said that.

Here are some interesting insights on these records [all of em] - (you only joined in september this past year). Not sure if you saw this posted here and on FB:

[quote]Mental Jewelry 1990 to 1992

On a cold winters day in Chad Gracey's garage, I sat strumming my guitar next to our kerosene heater. The chords were simple and repetitive but they resonated with me. Ed joined me and asked that I continue the pattern. After about an hour, we had birthed a song. It was called "Operation Spirit." The lyrics, as most on this album, were inspired by J Krishnamurti, a philosophical and spiritual teacher born in India. Ed was as curious as any person I had ever know about God and he would find all of these incredible authors. These early songs would showcase our surprising ability to harness songwriting, performance and the spiritual quest of my young friend. The bass and drums propel this album under the production guidance of musical mentor, Jerry Harrison (Modern Lover's, Talking Heads). At the age of 18, my friends and I introduced ourselves to the world with this album, recorded and mixed in Milwaukee, WI. Released on RadioActive/MCA December 31, 1991[/quote]

[quote]Throwing Copper 1993 to 1996

After Mental Jewelry, our lives had totally changed. We managed to have a #1 hit with "Operation Spirit" and a huge touring cycle supporting Peter Gabriel, Ramones, PIL and BAD. The pressure to make an album that lived up to MJ was massive. Ed & I worked tirelessly writing for the album. The band & our sound had grown up on the road and the new aggression suited us well. The earliest songs were road tested while still touring for MJ, where the band could showcase its musical prowess and dynamic range. We recorded in Canon Falls, MN and nearly broke up over our first publishing fight. Somehow we managed to pull through. Throwing Copper, after being released on April 26, 1994, it reached Billboards #1 on May 6, 1995
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[quote]secret samadhi 1997 to 1998

With TC under our belts, it was time for real rock n roll excess! No party would be missed, no stripper would go without champaign and we were literally, as high as we could get. We wrote the songs in a hodgepodge of demos and finally went to Jamaica to solidify our efforts. Ed's lyrics had changed radically as did the bands sound. We had gone over the top with heavy guitars, hard drum beats and furious melodies. "Lakini's Juice" had been on a cassette demo of mine for almost a year and thankfully, Ed kept reminding me to play it. Just like "Selling The Drama" and "Operation Spirit" before it, Lakini's went straight to #1. This marked the third consecutive debut single where I had delivered the music to Live. The album, recorded and mixed in NYC, debuted at #1 on Billboard's album chart on February 18, 1997
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[quote]Distance To Here 1998 to 2000

The non-stop touring was beginning to take a toll on our relationships. Gracey had gotten divorced and we all seemed more distant than in year prior. The Distance To Here saw us return to Jerry Harrison as producer as we tried to get our brains around a new band line-up with Chris Thorn joining on guitar. Ed's songwriting had evolved and he was much more of a singer-songwriter at this point. His talents were showcased on songs like "Face & Ghost" & the hypnotic music-scape of "The Distance." We were at the beginning of a new phase, where many of the songs were written as whole pieces and presented to the band. Our first international #1 single, "They Stood Up For Love" would be the last substantial song he and I would pen together. The album, recorded in Marin County, CA debuted at #4 in the US and #1 in Canada, Belgium and Australia on October 5, 1999
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[quote]v 2000 to 2002

On a short break between legs of a US tour, Ed suggested we demo new material with our friend, guitarist & producer Alain Johannes. In a few short weeks, we had assembled "Ecstatic Fanatic" and presented it to MCA records. After a year long delay due to label politics, MCA release the album on September 18, 2001. Despite the delays and the 9/11 terror attacks, the album debuted at #22 US and #1 in Holland, Australia, Norway and New Zealand
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[quote]Birds of Prey 2003 to 2005

After the bearing the political climate of post 9/11, I wanted to make a record that reflected our struggle. I sent Ed a bunch of demos of songs I had been working on. Ed had already been hard at work writing and did not include the band in the process. Thankfully, he called to suggest a band session in Nashville where I got to contribute to a band jam titled, "Like I Do" and to my surprise, a course rocker called "Lighthouse." Ed shined, as new father will, on the albums lead single "Heaven." This wasn't exactly my "flavor" of rock n roll but I couldn't deny the song was catchy as 'all get out' and landed us our first solid radio single in a long time. I argued with the label about the album cover but my opinion mattered less these days. I learned a ton about making "old school" albums from producer Jim Wirt, recording in the thread bare, 4th St Studio's in Santa Monica. The album was released May 20, 2003, debuting at #28 US[/quote]

[quote]Songs From Black Mountain 2006 to 2009

This album should have been the beginning of Ed's solo career in my opinion. I had no idea how to contribute to the material but don't mistake that for not trying. I really did try but this style of material wasn't right for CG, PD and I to play on. I don't blame Ed for wanting something new. Dylan had a new band almost every album. Then again, Dylan was only ever in one band and that was well after he'd established his career. The album cover says it all and is my least favorite photo on myself. Regardless, my favorite song on this album is "Wings". SFBM was released on June 6, 2006.
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taken from this post: http://www.fansoflive.com/forums/index.php...3&hl=publishing

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Arizona_Skies   You're smoking something   Jan 13 2012, 1:57 pm
throwing_cheetahs   Everclear without [b]Art Alexakis Pumpkins withou...   Jan 13 2012, 2:13 pm
Pokey   Live has already changed lead singers once when th...   Jan 13 2012, 2:56 pm
themaestro   Everclear without [b]Art Alexakis Pumpkins withou...   Jan 13 2012, 3:18 pm
zmanpga   Obviously you have no idea what it means to be ...   Jan 13 2012, 3:45 pm
FishOutaWater   I think that once again, we all need to be thinkin...   Jan 13 2012, 4:06 pm
themaestro   I think that once again, we all need to be thinki...   Jan 13 2012, 4:23 pm
Good_Pain   I believe they have enough to work with to make i...   Jan 13 2012, 5:57 pm
MrSheptical   And eventually, I fear that it will draw to a clo...   Jan 14 2012, 7:19 pm
Aitkens   TGF were an unknown commodity even considering th...   Jan 14 2012, 11:55 pm
MrSheptical   I don't fault them for having the bus. They ...   Jan 15 2012, 7:05 pm
Arizona_Skies   I suggest you go back into Live's history to...   Jan 17 2012, 1:15 pm
dancing queen   Wow, that's a lot of work. Do I need to do a...   Jan 17 2012, 1:58 pm
themaestro   Wow, that's a lot of work. Do I need to do a...   Jan 17 2012, 10:39 pm
zmanpga   Art still plays in Everclear, only member left   Jan 13 2012, 3:48 pm
themaestro   Art still plays in Everclear, only member left ...   Jan 13 2012, 4:02 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   People make so little money on album sales, it...   Jan 13 2012, 6:26 pm
themaestro   People make so little money on album sales, it...   Jan 13 2012, 6:32 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   But, I guess to respond: Van Halen Genesis Blac...   Jan 13 2012, 6:33 pm
themaestro   But, I guess to respond: Van Halen Genesis Bla...   Jan 13 2012, 6:45 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I know you've said CS or whoever is singing s...   Jan 13 2012, 9:38 pm
Hoodstock   Another thread about the same thing. I can...   Jan 13 2012, 8:04 pm
OutToDry   Everclear sucks mightily. Saw them in 2000 with L...   Jan 14 2012, 8:49 am
Arizona_Skies   Everclear sucks mightily. Every song the same. ...   Jan 17 2012, 1:52 pm
Aitkens   This is a typical response. Just like "all ...   Jan 17 2012, 1:58 pm
zmanpga   music industry is in the shit, we have one of ROCK...   Jan 14 2012, 8:50 am
Good_Pain   music industry is in the shit, we have one of ROC...   Jan 14 2012, 11:10 am
zmanpga   Its really up to US to help our favorite bands pus...   Jan 14 2012, 1:16 pm
World Dreamer   Everclear without [b]Art Alexakis Pumpkins withou...   Jan 14 2012, 1:47 pm
Live4Life   If you aren't pumped about new Live then plea...   Jan 14 2012, 7:30 pm
Pokey   See what i mean, you threw nicks name in here for...   Jan 15 2012, 4:57 am
Live4Life   You seem to really, really like Nick when all you...   Jan 15 2012, 6:22 pm
World Dreamer   Nah, it's not that i really like him i'm ...   Jan 16 2012, 10:00 am
Live4Life   As tired as you are about people ganging up on Ni...   Jan 16 2012, 5:03 pm
OutToDry   That's a true story. Ed was excess....still i...   Jan 14 2012, 11:58 pm
Merica   That's a true story. Ed was excess....still ...   Jan 15 2012, 5:31 am
+Ed+   On topic: Camel or Kent superlights   Jan 15 2012, 4:29 am
Pokey   On topic: Camel or Kent superlights K_uFDSQ_Ius   Jan 15 2012, 4:59 am
Wambangalang   i know im a hotel kinda guy, dont much like roughi...   Jan 15 2012, 6:05 am
Pokey   The whole New Live being a failure thing is ridicu...   Jan 16 2012, 10:33 am
Wambangalang   The whole New Live being a failure thing is ridic...   Jan 16 2012, 4:29 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I AM smoking something. How did you know??   Jan 16 2012, 4:34 pm
OutToDry   The term 'driving force' behind the band i...   Jan 17 2012, 2:28 pm
Arizona_Skies   As stated, when Ed took over, everything went to ...   Jan 17 2012, 2:55 pm
Pokey   Not true. Ed was the driving force behind Throwi...   Jan 17 2012, 3:14 pm
OutToDry   Not true. Ed was the driving force behind Throwi...   Jan 17 2012, 3:50 pm
Arizona_Skies   Music is not only lyrics. I think the 3 members ...   Jan 17 2012, 6:19 pm
mattyeagles   People on this board are very quick to discredit e...   Jan 17 2012, 7:18 pm
Arizona_Skies   The first 4 albums would not have been made witho...   Jan 17 2012, 7:31 pm
OutToDry   Amen brother. who is saying that without ...   Jan 17 2012, 7:34 pm
Arizona_Skies   Without the 4 of them and what they created colle...   Jan 17 2012, 7:51 pm
OutToDry   People on this board are very quick to discredit ...   Jan 17 2012, 7:33 pm
World Dreamer   Not true. Ed was the driving force behind Throwi...   Jan 17 2012, 3:58 pm
Live4Life   uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh   Jan 17 2012, 8:06 pm
Bremang   C'mon, the singer/songwriter is usually the mo...   Jan 17 2012, 9:41 pm
themaestro   C'mon, the singer/songwriter is usually the m...   Jan 17 2012, 10:35 pm
OutToDry   Put Ed out front all you want. He was the symbo...   Jan 17 2012, 10:40 pm
Pokey   C'mon, the singer/songwriter is usually the m...   Jan 17 2012, 10:41 pm
themaestro   This discussion is really stupid. So Ed was the mo...   Jan 17 2012, 10:47 pm
Arizona_Skies   Make no mistake, he drew a lot of inspiration and...   Jan 18 2012, 1:59 am
Bremang   Do you know Eddie K? How the fuck do you know ...   Jan 18 2012, 2:51 am
Pokey   Do you know Eddie K? How the fuck do you know he...   Jan 18 2012, 2:51 am
themaestro   Do you know Eddie K? Yes   Jan 18 2012, 7:44 am
themaestro   This is the problem with this board: since we on...   Jan 18 2012, 8:05 am
themaestro   One need not know EK on such a personal level to u...   Jan 18 2012, 8:48 am
FishOutaWater   One need not know EK on such a personal level to ...   Jan 18 2012, 9:39 am
Bremang   Ed probably did do more than 25% realistically....   Jan 18 2012, 3:00 am
zmanpga   C'mon, the singer/songwriter is usually the m...   Jan 18 2012, 6:25 am
Pokey   So who is to say that with another talented singer...   Jan 17 2012, 10:35 pm
OutToDry   So who is to say that with another talented singe...   Jan 17 2012, 10:41 pm
OutToDry   guess it's fair to revisit this...... http://...   Jan 17 2012, 10:37 pm
Wambangalang   you dont really want ed fronting live do you? He...   Jan 18 2012, 2:31 am
Live4Life   OMG For the love of FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK   Jan 18 2012, 7:13 am
FishOutaWater   I know I must be excited about this. I had a drea...   Jan 18 2012, 7:30 am
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