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post Jan 13 2012, 1:57 pm
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Everclear without Art Alexakis
Pumpkins without Billy Corgan
Bush without Gavin Rossdale
3EB without Stephan Jenkins
Nirvana without Kurt

But, don't worry... LIVE has a new singer.

This is a joke right? Complete with a Karaoke singer, how about that?

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post Jan 17 2012, 2:28 pm
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The term 'driving force' behind the band is an oxymoron. As stated, when Ed took over, everything went to shit. The music. Is the measuring stick. When the arrangements were controlled into one way, band was over. The other 75% were placed in the background, ideas, concepts, sound.........proof is there.
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post Jan 17 2012, 2:55 pm
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QUOTE(OutToDry @ Jan 17 2012, 11:28 am) *

As stated, when Ed took over, everything went to shit.


Not true. Ed was the driving force behind Throwing Copper and that went pretty well, didn't it?

And don't argue this - just read the liner notes: All lyrics written by Ed Kowalczyk

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QUOTE(Arizona_Skies @ Jan 17 2012, 2:55 pm) *

Not true. Ed was the driving force behind Throwing Copper and that went pretty well, didn't it?

And don't argue this - just read the liner notes: All lyrics written by Ed Kowalczyk

Is that your measure of Live? I can't help you then. It's your opinion. Music is not only lyrics. I think the 3 members will take issue to that statement you posted.
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QUOTE(OutToDry @ Jan 17 2012, 12:50 pm) *

Music is not only lyrics. I think the 3 members will take issue to that statement you posted.


Obviously, music isn't only lyrics (any 3rd grader knows that). I'm not discounting the contributions of CCP. But, let's use Throwing Copper as an example: did Chad Gracey contribute as much as Ed did? The obvious answer is no. Don't believe me? Read the ASCAP credits.

So, did anyone contribute more than Ed? Since he was the principal songwriter, the answer is no. Is it then fair to say that Ed was the driving force of Throwing Copper? Yes.

Like it or not, Ed was the driving force of Live's biggest album.

And, since he was the driving force of their biggest album, can we say that he was the driving force of the band? Of course.

Stop trying to rewrite history.

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