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post Sep 30 2011, 3:24 pm
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From the Salt Lake Tribune:

"I had simply come to the end of a chapter in my life and wanted to spread my wings and move beyond what I had been doing, in the same way, for almost 20 years. As far as the allegations that were leveled at me and purported as the reason for the breakup, they were all absolutely untrue. I have no plans to work with those individuals again."

I know there's a lot of speculation on this board, and some of you know the band members personally... does anyone know Ed's side of the story?


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post Oct 3 2011, 8:14 pm
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I wouldn't know. I don't follow or lurk on his page, hence Pokey's arguement, if you're not a fan, why are you there? It's only to cause trouble if you make disparaging remarks.


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QUOTE(OutToDry @ Oct 3 2011, 9:14 pm) *
if you're not a fan, why are you there?


they are fans


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post Oct 4 2011, 4:46 am
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Oct 3 2011, 11:16 pm) *


they are fans




No, LET ME CLEARLY SAY IT AGAIN.......if you are not a fan of someone, why would you follow someone, then give a disparaging comment.



Stop moving the FUCKING GOALPOST.



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QUOTE(OutToDry @ Oct 4 2011, 5:46 am) *


No, LET ME CLEARLY SAY IT AGAIN.......if you are not a fan of someone, why would you follow someone, then give a disparaging comment.

Stop moving the FUCKING GOALPOST.



if you're not a fan, you wouldn't follow someone, and you wouldn't say disparaging remarks if you don't follow them.

but you trying to agree with pokey's argument, but i don't see how you helped his point, cause the guy who made the comment in pokey's argument is a fan.

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QUOTE(Bremang @ Oct 4 2011, 10:21 pm) *

if you're not a fan, you wouldn't follow someone, and you wouldn't say disparaging remarks if you don't follow them.

but you trying to agree with pokey's argument, but i don't see how you helped his point, cause the guy who made the comment in pokey's argument is a fan.


I'd say he'd be a fan that was walking away, a former fan. Or do you know him personally?

He may have been a fan of what Live was, as I imagine every person there who has something negative to say about Live getting back together without Ed. (Except Nick, we've already established he never thought anything of CCP).
So of course in some round about way yes they are fans (harks back to Wam's "yes we 'CAN' get Ice Cream"). But by stating that "No Ed, No Live" he's pretty much renouncing his fandom. He'd be walking away, if he continues to stay then .. what? "No Ed, no Live! But .. I'm going to keep following you guys anyways because you're Live and I'm a fan of Live .. but, you're not Live, because Ed isn't here, but I still like you guys, I'm a fan of Live, but you're not Live.."
It just doesn't make any fucking sense. The only way I can make heads or tails of it is one of 2 things. Either it's purely a means to cause trouble and to be a winey little bitch. Or you were a fan of what Live was in the past and don't like the change .. in which case Live have nothing further to offer you moving forward - grow up and move on.

It's just plain and simple ... if you're not happy with the way things are either piss off and go do something else, or if you're going to stay and complain, then be prepared to get told to stfu by people who are excited about this new venture, including the band. Fucking babies.

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QUOTE(Pokey @ Oct 4 2011, 7:40 am) *

It just doesn't make any fucking sense. The only way I can make heads or tails of it is one of 2 things. Either it's purely a means to cause trouble and to be a winey little bitch. Or you were a fan of what Live was in the past and don't like the change .. in which case Live have nothing further to offer you moving forward - grow up and move on.


thats so obtuse dude........if you love or enjoy something for years and then it one day turns to shit, i hope you don't say a word and let it burn up inside you, and never confront whoever made it change.

even if the guy didn't care that much, an FB message board isn't some sanctimonious place. if he felt like giving his meaningless 2 cents, that's where you do it.

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Arizona_Skies   What really happened to Ed?   Sep 30 2011, 3:24 pm
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