What really happened to Ed? Options

[Arizona_Skies]

From the Salt Lake Tribune:

"I had simply come to the end of a chapter in my life and wanted to spread my wings and move beyond what I had been doing, in the same way, for almost 20 years. As far as the allegations that were leveled at me and purported as the reason for the breakup, they were all absolutely untrue. I have no plans to work with those individuals again."

I know there's a lot of speculation on this board, and some of you know the band members personally... does anyone know Ed's side of the story?

[Bremang]

If you're not a fan of what CCP are doing then stop following them and follow Ed, it's really just not that hard.

i bet you don't mind fans who went to ed's fb site, and told ed on his wall that he was a bastard

If someone was selling music that I helped create on their website and they weren't paying me the mechanical royalties, I'd stick a legal chainsaw up their asshole.

It's funny how the law works like that.

unless of course you guys had some kind of contract (how the law works), then you might actually stay away from their asshole

Now you're an internet thread English teacher?

Next thing you know he'll be correcting people who type LOL!

yea you didn't know the word privy, and the point that i made went over your head as usual, hilarious

That's exactly what I meant in my original post. If I helped create a song and that song was being sold either at concerts on CD or via the internet, I'd be pretty pissed. There is no grey and the contract doesn't have a lot to do with this issue. ASCAP handles most of this in a standard manner - there is a standard mechanical royalty rate.

It's not like it isn't clear who wrote the songs. Just look at the CD liner. The credited writers are owed money. Sorry, but that's the way it works. If I recorded a version of "The River," a song where Ed is the sole credited author, and started to sell it on my website for money - and he found out about it - I'm absolutely certain there would be a lawsuit much in the same manner (yes, there were additional charges leveled against Ed - I'm not referring to those).

And yes, for the record, it is negligent that a successful performing artist would attempt something that amateur - if the accusations are true. Either he sold the songs or he didn't (he did). Either he paid them the money from that or he didn't (they claim he didn't). End of story.

are you a lawyer? did you learn how to make a legal analysis from stuff you conjured up from your gut instinct and reading things on the internet?

[Pokey]

i bet you don't mind fans who went to ed's fb site, and told ed on his wall that he was a bastard

You couldn't be further from the truth. I don't follow Ed on facebook or twitter as I'm not a fan of his solo work (funny that how I don't waste time following people I don't care for). So I'm not privy to anyone bashing him on his Facebook. If they were then I'd say the same thing to them, just quit following him and focus on something you do like instead. I think he deserves everything he gets and ive thrown comments around about him here but I'm here on a LIVE fan site for LIVE. I'd never bother going out of my way to make disparaging remarks directly to him in a nest of his own fans. If they want to follow and love him that's fine, I think they like some terrible music but that's their choice.
So I think it works both ways. If you were a fan of Live and you don't like the fact Ed is gone, move on and listen to him as the man himself has apparently moves on and barely talks about Live why should you? Just like I've moved on from Ed, I don't follow him and comment on things he says to tell him how I feel he's disappointed me.

Arguing anything to the contrary of this is just being silly for the sake of arguing. Yeah free speech is free speech so if you expect people should be able to tell CCP how they feel then you damn sure better expect CCP to say how they feel in the end. They're not politicians, they don't have to bite their tongue and kiss babies and not rock the boat. Theyre dudes. Dudes who play rock music and have feelings and emotions and don't have to hold back.

[Bremang]

Arguing anything to the contrary of this is just being silly for the sake of arguing.

shut up about that already. its my honest opinion that anyone should flame away (within reason), to a band at any time, boo at a concert, express themselves on a message board..

and if a band member will accept the good comments but then try to cull out the band ones,
its pretty lame.

[Pokey]

shut up about that already. its my honest opinion that anyone should flame away (within reason), to a band at any time, boo at a concert, express themselves on a message board..

and if a band member will accept the good comments but then try to cull out the band ones,
its pretty lame.

But these people are not fans! They refuse to acknowledge it's even Live, they're like Nick, counted out. It makes as much sense as me following Kanye West and giving him an earful. What's the point? If the music cams out and people expressed they didn't like it then fair enough, you gotta wear the good reviews with the bad. You're asking the band to bend over and take it like a bitch. Ain't happening, if people want to bring it they should expect the band to ark up and show emotion in reply. Afterall that's what music is about, envying emotion.

Your right to free speech is way out of whack if it applys to one group of people and not another. If someone gave Ed a spray on his Facebook I'd say he'd have every right to back up his beliefs and reply.