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post Sep 30 2011, 3:24 pm
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From the Salt Lake Tribune:

"I had simply come to the end of a chapter in my life and wanted to spread my wings and move beyond what I had been doing, in the same way, for almost 20 years. As far as the allegations that were leveled at me and purported as the reason for the breakup, they were all absolutely untrue. I have no plans to work with those individuals again."

I know there's a lot of speculation on this board, and some of you know the band members personally... does anyone know Ed's side of the story?


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post Sep 30 2011, 3:27 pm
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The only bits of his side of the story that we know came from the summons response, which basically stated that he was entitled to the money because he wrote the songs. We don't know any more than that, and we also don't know how much of that came from him or from his lawyer.


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post Sep 30 2011, 4:19 pm
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QUOTE(thefunkyredcaboose @ Sep 30 2011, 1:27 pm) *

The only bits of his side of the story that we know came from the summons response, which basically stated that he was entitled to the money because he wrote the songs. We don't know any more than that, and we also don't know how much of that came from him or from his lawyer.


It was such a poor defense. The other three guys were listed as co-writers on much of LIVE's early catalogue, including most of the big hits. Ed and his legal team should have known the ASCAP regulations regarding this and paid the other band members accordingly. Just because you are selling bootlegs tracks of a performance where the others weren't involved is unacceptable. It's a blatant violation of copyright law.

In case Nick gets huffy, this is akin to me recoding the song Imagine and selling CDs featuring that track, without paying the estate of John Lennon. It doesn't work that way. The credited songwriters are entitled to the monies owed. In this case, there's more than one, so ASCAP has rules as to how these monies are paid, for both the music authorship royalties and the publishing side.

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QUOTE(jaybb @ Sep 30 2011, 2:19 pm) *

It was such a poor defense. The other three guys were listed as co-writers on much of LIVE's early catalogue, including most of the big hits. Ed and his legal team should have known the ASCAP regulations regarding this and paid the other band members accordingly. Just because you are selling bootlegs tracks of a performance where the others weren't involved is unacceptable. It's a blatant violation of copyright law.


So, Ed's lawyers were the ones controlling the band's money?


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Arizona_Skies   What really happened to Ed?   Sep 30 2011, 3:24 pm
jaybb   So, Ed's lawyers were the ones controlling th...   Sep 30 2011, 8:33 pm
Bremang   Nevertheless, to be a professional recording ar...   Sep 30 2011, 10:16 pm
jaybb   you're not even in the ballpark How so?   Oct 1 2011, 4:29 am
Bremang   How so? I could go on forever.......i'll...   Oct 1 2011, 2:32 pm
Hoodstock   For one, you are not privy to the contract, so yo...   Oct 1 2011, 4:29 pm
Bremang   Please privy us then. :shrug: privy is not ...   Oct 1 2011, 6:29 pm
Pokey   :shrug: privy is not a verb....and i don't ...   Oct 1 2011, 8:25 pm
Hoodstock   :shrug: privy is not a verb.... Now you're...   Oct 2 2011, 8:22 pm
Bremang   It was such a poor defense. :rolleyes:   Sep 30 2011, 6:17 pm
Pokey   :rolleyes: :rolleyes:   Sep 30 2011, 7:12 pm
OutToDry   http://i.imgur.com/iyEgM.jpg   Sep 30 2011, 4:35 pm
Merica   If the ragged, begging man is Ed... then the littl...   Sep 30 2011, 5:11 pm
Wambangalang   its the prodigal son   Sep 30 2011, 5:26 pm
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TheAdamTaylor   If someone was selling music that I helped create ...   Oct 2 2011, 12:51 pm
EF341SC   If someone was selling music that I helped create...   Oct 2 2011, 8:00 pm
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Bremang   If you're not a fan of what CCP are doing ...   Oct 2 2011, 10:33 pm
TheAdamTaylor   EDIT: I am just deleting my response. People argu...   Oct 2 2011, 11:01 pm
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Pokey   shut up about that already. its my honest opinion...   Oct 3 2011, 2:58 pm
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crazy1   shut up Yeah....that is two words I would like...   Oct 5 2011, 9:05 am
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FishOutaWater   Listen to Heaven. That is what happened to Ed. ...   Oct 7 2011, 9:34 am
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Hoodstock   i bet you don't mind fans who went to ed...   Oct 3 2011, 5:05 pm
sh4rpz   Ok, but what really happened to Ed? :eh:   Oct 3 2011, 2:51 am
zmanpga   Adam!! :thumbsup:   Oct 3 2011, 7:33 am
+Ed+   Can not wait for the recording, Adam!   Oct 3 2011, 9:52 am
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