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post Sep 16 2011, 1:19 am
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So did I actually read somewhere that there was a singular incident (or a final incident) between Chad Gracey & Ed that really pissed Chad off to the point of a major fall out between the two of them?
Besides the obvious shit that Chad T. originally blogged about, like an argument or the behavior of Ed getting to Chad G. etc.


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post Sep 17 2011, 5:01 am
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Nobody puts CG in a glass cage. Well ever again that is.


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post Sep 20 2011, 9:48 pm
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QUOTE(apesce1 @ Sep 17 2011, 6:01 am) *

Nobody puts CG in a glass cage. Well ever again that is.


Don't get me wrong, I don't know the specifics of it. But a lot of the time, putting two and two together isn't very hard to do. The last two times I saw Live perform, I also observed that backstage, there was no conversation or communication between Ed and the rest of the band. Something was obviously very wrong and I'm not at liberty to say what that was, because I do not know specifically. What I do know is that Ed was being a huge dick towards his bandmates and there was some serious shit being spewed. Don't know if you guys read TGF's facebook page a wys back, but Chads wife was on there dropping some fucking bombs on Ed, as was CG. They were both very, VERY angry with him.

And let me tell you that from the times I met CG and his wife, you couldn't meet two nicer down to earth people. CG is simply not the type of guy whatsoever to fly off the handle like that and neither is his wife. I'm sure many of you have met CG and that not one of you EVER had a bad experience with him. He is not like CT, the kind of guy to get a tad emotional and wear his heart on his sleeve. He is quiet, down to earth, genuine, friendly and kind at every turn. For him to blow up and say the things he was saying about Ed at the time, said just about everything you would need to know. There are things involved that I know first hand, and some I don't. None of it is really any of my fucking business to begin with, so I am not going to discuss specifics with you.

Why not? Out of respect for all of the people involved. People that I adore and respect and treat like my own family. They mean more to me than any fight between anyone. On top of that, I think that CG is probably regretting some of thos things now that time has passed. These four guys were like brothers. They truly love one another. Something happened that broke that trust and caused some pretty deep wounds. Common sense should tell you all of that. Read between the fucking lines and its not to hard to see the big picture. I don't know the exact cause, nor do I care to know.

What I do care about hoever is that these four guys, who I've grown attached to over the past 15 years, are at odds with one another. You see how much it hurts us, can you imagine how much it's hurting these guys and their families?? These guys all know each others wives and children and all that. They've been friends and brothers since they were kids. Can you imagine how much they must be hurting?? CG reacted in such perfuse anger for a god damned reason, he was hurt very deeply by whatever happened. I think he felt betrayed by one of his own and he lashed out any way he could. CG does not have it in him IMO to be spiteful for no good reason and after meeting his lovely wife a few times?? I would confidently venture to say that neither does she.

Bottom line for me?? These guys changed my entire life with their music. Their message slapped me in the face harder than anyone ever could. As stupid as it sounds, these guys were like angels in a sense, just as my children were. I was on a path to utter destruction and their music helped me realize that I had a chance, that all WASN'T lost. I can still remember a few nights back in 94, sitting there with all the lights out in pure darkness, with my stereo cranked, listening to the music and feeling.....not so alone anymore. Feeling enlightened in a sense, empowered....like THERE WAS something left to believe in. I've always felt quietly like I owe these guys something.

And I try to pay them back by being a good father to my gorgeous, wonderful children. I adore them more than life itself. I try to pay them back by being the type of person I've always wanted to be deep down, instead of letting the world have its way with me and turn me into something I am not. LIVE gave me direction, hope and the ability to face my own spiritual beliefs. Because at that point, I was ignoring them and I was letting the world mold me into a fucking scumbag. The aura and messages of this band helped save me and I'll forever be indebted to them.

Over time, from my experience far and near, I've learned that they are awesome people as well. That's why hearing people like Nick talking about their behavior in some instances is just completely asinine. I know for fact that these guys would not have reacted so harshly without just cause. Am I disappointed in Ed. Hell yeah. His voice rang heavily right through the very core of me on many lonely nights. Nights when I was searching for answers to my own demons. Although I no longer support Ed, I hope they all find the forgiveness inside of them that they need to heal those wounds. No matter how long it takes. They may never be bandmates again, but hopefully they can somehow remember what they once had as friends and get that part of it back.

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