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post Oct 16 2009, 11:59 pm
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Hey all:

I've been reading this board for a lot of years, perhaps not in the past year. Real life happens daily and I have been out of touch since the winter. I've seen all the shows, enjoyed the music, and taken the ride down the slippery slope with Live. I was really dedicated and excited with this band once upon a time....2000 Englewood CO show that lasted 40 min in a snowstorm was pretty dedicated!!

Seeing the FOL message angered me but, I am far from surprised as I predicted to myself that the day will happen

If the band sees/reads here..................Old skool fan here. My age has gone past 40 bells and if a hiatus is needed to get these 4 back to the beginning of the circle again, so be it.

I for one will follow Edko, CT, PD & GC and the new stuff to reconfirm why I started listening and following the band since the early 90's

I want to hear the edgy hard driving sound of +Live+ again someday.

I am sure I will perhaps hear Ed do something hard driving again, after he gets his fill with acoustical bliss.

Lets face it, since V, the really fringe fans of Live went away for good......the change to AC and the soft faced falsetto made them leave in droves. I accepted the new Live with a lot of hope. Good stuff in there on Birds I have to admit..........but the Live that riveted me with the chords was waning.

I hope to see them again as the 4.

Best of luck to the guys in their current endeavors!!!

OutToDry

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Listen, bottom line is that Live were in trouble for years. It happens and it shouldn't come as any surprise that people grow apart as they hit 30. Even Chad has said that he had trouble communicating after some time had passed between them getting back together.

People in these positions go back and spend time with their families and return different people. A long time ago, these guys started having thei differences. Ed especially. Stopped hanging with the other 3 and even got his own separate dressing room. They stopped going out after shows and basically went their separate ways on most occasions. Although I'm not completely sure, it seems the same thing happned with the music itself. It was no longer a get together and collaboration, it was a get together, with Ed having written his own music and bringing it in as if it was what was going to come to fruition. That's where some of the communication gaps came in. CT especially had some of his own ideas and they weren't being accepted as possible ideas for the bands upcoming recorded music.

It got to the point where the guys just weren't willing to accept Ed's ideas anymore and let him rule the roost. They did not agree with the music anymore(not that they ever had) and everything finally came to a head. Three albums of complete musical failure was about it. They wanted to be part of the creative influence again, and Ed wasn't letting that happen.

Just look at what CCP created with TGF, and compare it to SFBM....you notice much of a difference there? I think the mistake was not CCP not stopping the buck after V. They let it get too far without communicating to Ed that they weren't happy going that way anymore. And when they did, it blew up. Some of what happened in between, only those guys know and MOST IMPORTANTLY, it's only their business.

I've stopped bagging on Ed completely. I've made up my mind that I lost all respect for him as an artist and a human being. Maybe it's warranted, maybe not. But it's my opinion. I think you all just need to let it rest. If Ed comes back eventually, so be it. For now, he isn't. GEt over it. Will the new Live succeed?? I don't know. But I do know that I'll like it more than the pure garbage we've gotten over the past 3 albums. I want nothing more to do with that. I'm positive that the new brand of music will be a billion times more creative musically.

Will I miss Ed?? Fuck yeah, he was a huge part of this band and I still love his performances of the old catalogue. But his new music sucked completely in every single sense of the word. There was utterly no sense in these four people continuing to make more music that was not successful in any way shape or form.

Support who you support and stop bagging on the other party.


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OutToDry   Out to Lunch   Oct 16 2009, 11:59 pm
OutToDry   all replies to the toxic waste dump.   Sep 18 2011, 8:20 am
sh4rpz   all replies to the toxic waste dump. Not to jump...   Sep 18 2011, 9:19 am
Pokey   I must admit to being in the same camp, whilst I d...   Sep 18 2011, 9:36 am
OutToDry   i think i need to take a hiatus........ :thumbsup:   Sep 18 2011, 9:58 am
Bremang   i think i need to take a hiatus........ :thumbsup...   Sep 18 2011, 11:00 am
OutToDry   Before you go on like a 9 hour hiatus - just ad...   Sep 18 2011, 11:14 am
SJN1279   Before you go on like a 9 hour hiatus - just admi...   Sep 18 2011, 11:44 am
Pokey   Before you go on like a 9 hour hiatus - just admi...   Sep 18 2011, 11:59 am
thefunkyredcaboose   Before you go on like a 9 hour hiatus - just admi...   Sep 18 2011, 12:52 pm
Pokey   Hilariously untrue. Also, if you think OTD was t...   Sep 18 2011, 1:09 pm
Bremang   when it became evident that CCP also loved was L...   Sep 18 2011, 1:39 pm
Pokey   show me when it became evident prior to the break...   Sep 18 2011, 1:45 pm
Bremang   But when CT began talking about the tension ar...   Sep 18 2011, 2:04 pm
Bremang   Hilariously untrue. Also, if you think OTD was...   Sep 18 2011, 1:27 pm
SJN1279   Show me a single post pre-breakup on any message...   Sep 18 2011, 1:32 pm
OutToDry   Was OTD a member of Fansoflive, illout, or SOY ...   Sep 18 2011, 3:39 pm
Bremang   I had user name at Illout, and I read SOY as...   Sep 18 2011, 3:49 pm
Pokey   I hated on Ed in 1997 when I thought at first tha...   Sep 18 2011, 1:39 pm
Bremang   How exactly could you "promote" them ...   Sep 18 2011, 1:59 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I don't have a problem with OTD danging the ca...   Sep 18 2011, 10:28 am
Pokey   And nothing against Dad, but I think I do prefer t...   Sep 18 2011, 10:45 am
SJN1279   I also like that OTD's connection to the band...   Sep 18 2011, 11:42 am
Pokey   Why would that drive me nuts? What is the point ...   Sep 18 2011, 11:57 am
Bremang   It's most likely just coincidence that OTD app...   Sep 18 2011, 12:35 pm
OutToDry   your conspiracy theory is all wet, like water. ...   Sep 18 2011, 12:42 pm
Bremang   your conspiracy theory is all wet, like water. S...   Sep 18 2011, 1:34 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   You seemed to be the only one who had a clue abou...   Sep 18 2011, 2:17 pm
Bremang   Not true, there was a lot of speculation going ...   Sep 18 2011, 2:26 pm
Pokey   was known that the other guys were only on lid an...   Sep 18 2011, 2:37 pm
Bremang   Yes this was prior knowledge. where from   Sep 18 2011, 2:48 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   where from I am pretty sure it's in the lin...   Sep 18 2011, 2:52 pm
Bremang   I am pretty sure it's in the liner notes. ...   Sep 18 2011, 3:45 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   now im just curious... what do the liner notes sa...   Sep 18 2011, 3:52 pm
Bremang   I don't have that POS album any more, feel ...   Sep 18 2011, 4:06 pm
Pokey   yea...i figured as much about deeper. and i figur...   Sep 18 2011, 4:10 pm
Pokey   now im just curious... what do the liner notes sa...   Sep 18 2011, 3:52 pm
Bremang   My BOP copy isn't around currently, but for...   Sep 18 2011, 4:00 pm
Pokey   where from I can't remember exactly where i...   Sep 18 2011, 2:56 pm
Bremang   I can't remember exactly where it was first...   Sep 18 2011, 3:48 pm
+Ed+   Shiiiiiiiit... OTD is the new vocalist... I got it...   Sep 18 2011, 1:04 pm
OutToDry   Hey all: I've been reading this board for a ...   Sep 18 2011, 2:20 pm
Pokey   Hey dude, welcome to the board!   Sep 18 2011, 2:39 pm
Bremang   so you say you've been watching the boards for...   Sep 18 2011, 2:44 pm
SJN1279   so you say you've been watching the boards fo...   Sep 18 2011, 2:54 pm
Pokey   I don't believe that he was working for Chad(...   Sep 18 2011, 3:10 pm
Bremang   you morons are just looking absolutely ridiculo...   Sep 18 2011, 3:26 pm
SJN1279   0 post sduring LIVE's entire 20 year run. N...   Sep 18 2011, 3:35 pm
Pokey   You seem pretty confident that you're not a m...   Sep 18 2011, 4:02 pm
Bremang   nick, i don't know why you think they were def...   Sep 18 2011, 3:08 pm
OutToDry   you guys are really hilarious and downright ill in...   Sep 18 2011, 3:37 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I assume that this will cause my reputation to com...   Sep 18 2011, 3:43 pm
SJN1279   I assume that this will cause my reputation to co...   Sep 18 2011, 3:52 pm
Bremang   I was here since V/BOP. OTD popped up randoml...   Sep 18 2011, 3:56 pm
Pokey   Very good point, but I have never claimed to be a...   Sep 18 2011, 4:07 pm
Bremang   I assume that this will cause my reputation to co...   Sep 18 2011, 3:55 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   i think it would be great if you would vouch and ...   Sep 18 2011, 4:04 pm
SJN1279   All I owe you to say is that I have gotten to kno...   Sep 18 2011, 4:16 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I don't think OTD is a bad guy at all. I hon...   Sep 18 2011, 4:19 pm
SJN1279   I should have said "trustworthy" but to...   Sep 18 2011, 4:22 pm
Pokey   I don't think you can trust anyone 100 percen...   Sep 18 2011, 4:59 pm
OutToDry   All I owe you to say is that I have gotten to k...   Sep 18 2011, 5:03 pm
OutToDry   why all this argument from Bremang and SJN? Are w...   Sep 18 2011, 4:03 pm
Bremang   why all this argument from Bremang and SJN? Are ...   Sep 18 2011, 4:09 pm
SJN1279   Are we upset that there will be new Live music? ...   Sep 18 2011, 5:03 pm
Aitkens   LIVE ended its run in 2009. Unless Ed joins back...   Sep 18 2011, 5:04 pm
SJN1279   Chad, Chad, and Patrick are helping Live rise li...   Sep 18 2011, 5:24 pm
Pokey   LIVE ended its run in 2009. Unless Ed joins back...   Sep 18 2011, 5:09 pm
OutToDry   gtYjdEwa8GA   Sep 18 2011, 4:09 pm
Aitkens   If he's a plant, what am I? I have not even b...   Sep 18 2011, 4:30 pm
Aitkens   Anyone with half a brain and ears that worked coul...   Sep 18 2011, 4:34 pm
OutToDry   Aitkens, we need to speak that louder.....it's...   Sep 18 2011, 5:01 pm
OutToDry   and Live wont be dictated to by the masses wanting...   Sep 18 2011, 5:17 pm
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