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post Sep 7 2011, 7:24 am
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Please feel free to compare lyrical mishaps from these two albums. Post the worst and post the best. /By the end, hopefully we can mostly agree as to which was most poorly written.

My vote goes to V....although I'm open to being proven wrong.

Let the shitslinging begin!

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post Sep 7 2011, 7:47 am
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I still say no matter what that I'd listen to V 10 times over before listening to SFBM once. The problem with comparing the lyrics is that so much of SFBM is just absolutely as safe as you can get, the lyrics biggest crime are being so god damn dull and boring. V has some shockers, like really bad, but I still like the fact that I can have fun with it more so because you know it was written in a heartbeat. It wasn't really trying to say something and failing like SFBM.

SFBM suffered badly from overuse of the word "like" and using way too many bad similes. "Such and such is like such and such", its one of the worst, laziest and most dull forms of song writing you can come up with. I know not every use of the word 'like' is when you're comparing something to something else, but there are 54 "like"'s in SFBM as opposed to V's 22.
Infact looking at Live's albums from MJ to V the word "like" increases with every album bar the first, it goes from - 9, 8, 10, 18, 22, 36, 54 ... that's amazing to think that such a word and the way it's used to just keep increasing and increasing .. no surprise that as it increases, the song writing quality decreases. I think it's just an example of how the song writing gets lazier.




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QUOTE(Pokey @ Sep 7 2011, 8:47 am) *

I still say no matter what that I'd listen to V 10 times over before listening to SFBM once. The problem with comparing the lyrics is that so much of SFBM is just absolutely as safe as you can get, the lyrics biggest crime are being so god damn dull and boring. V has some shockers, like really bad, but I still like the fact that I can have fun with it more so because you know it was written in a heartbeat. It wasn't really trying to say something and failing like SFBM.

SFBM suffered badly from overuse of the word "like" and using way too many bad similes. "Such and such is like such and such", its one of the worst, laziest and most dull forms of song writing you can come up with. I know not every use of the word 'like' is when you're comparing something to something else, but there are 54 "like"'s in SFBM as opposed to V's 22.
Infact looking at Live's albums from MJ to V the word "like" increases with every album bar the first, it goes from - 9, 8, 10, 18, 22, 36, 54 ... that's amazing to think that such a word and the way it's used to just keep increasing and increasing .. no surprise that as it increases, the song writing quality decreases. I think it's just an example of how the song writing gets lazier.


Agreed, but lazy songwriting can still be very good in some instance. The Notorious B.I.G was a prime example ofthis, although the genre being different. Same With Marshall Mathers. Two very talented and clever songwriters. Their use of the word like is almost profane to a point. Anybody who wants to argue differently might as well save it.

I think where the writing suffers is in the realm of open interpretation. Live's music asked questions early on in a very subtle and clever way. The lyrics meant something different to everybody. In Ed's later work, there was almost none of that. The pretense seemingly being that all of his answers have been found.

To me, a major flaw in life is simply failure to stop asking the pertinent questions. People who profess to have found the answers are simply lying to themselve in oh so many instances. Life is a marvellous wonder that poses an infinite number of questions that we can only guess the answers to.

I simply do not think for one second that the major failure in the song writing was grammatical. I think that's the least of the worries when it comes to the substance of this music.


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LiveRoCkS77   V vs SFBM 2:   Sep 7 2011, 7:24 am
Hoodstock   I still say no matter what that I'd listen to...   Sep 7 2011, 2:59 pm
Pokey   That's great and all but he said SFBM 2 in th...   Sep 7 2011, 3:19 pm
LiveRoCkS77   That's great and all but he said SFBM 2 in th...   Sep 7 2011, 3:20 pm
OutToDry   in a dream i had you were standin all alone with ...   Sep 7 2011, 8:14 am
World Dreamer   What I noticed in SFBM is that probably 85% of the...   Sep 7 2011, 8:17 am
Pokey   Lazy songwriting in Ed's case, is not good .. ...   Sep 7 2011, 8:34 am
LiveRoCkS77   Lazy songwriting in Ed's case, is not good .....   Sep 7 2011, 10:43 am
tiger   I think they're equally as bad, with V perhaps...   Sep 7 2011, 11:12 am
LiveRoCkS77   I think they're equally as bad, with V perhap...   Sep 7 2011, 11:21 am
Merica   do what we came to do in a town tonight where the...   Sep 7 2011, 4:11 pm
Sonic Tonic   I agree with what you're saying somewhat, but...   Sep 7 2011, 4:59 pm
OutToDry   Transmit your Love should be voted the worst ever ...   Sep 7 2011, 11:42 am
rock4adiference   Transmit your Love should be voted the worst ever...   Sep 7 2011, 12:02 pm
OutToDry   nothing to see there rock4, move along, it's u...   Sep 7 2011, 12:05 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I like the music of TYL.   Sep 7 2011, 12:06 pm
World Dreamer   I have said it often. V, for me, gets a pass becau...   Sep 7 2011, 12:20 pm
LiveRoCkS77   I have said it often. V, for me, gets a pass beca...   Sep 7 2011, 2:41 pm
World Dreamer   Somewhat, SFBM was a completely serious effort by...   Sep 7 2011, 6:19 pm
+Ed+   I think we must hop to discussing the BEST Live wo...   Sep 7 2011, 12:58 pm


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