Chad Taylor on V, Where can I find it? Options

[sellingthdrama]

I'm looking for the text or posts by Chad T on the V - or any of the post-TDTH albums. I've always wanted to know the backstory as to why my favorite favorite band went off-track. Can someone link to them? Or summarize what he's said?

[thefunkyredcaboose]

Let's get it back on track.

I find it incredibly interesting that the label fumbled V so badly. Deep Enough, IMO, would have been a great single in that climate. It had the remix in the Fast and the Furious that would have backed it too.

We all complained about the rap stuff, but I think, given what CT has said, that the label picked up all of the rap songs because of what was popular at the time.

Between Fast and the Furious, Mummy Returns, and Overcome at 9/11 it should have been a big album even if the songs were complete garbage (some of them were), but if everyone remembers, there was little to no push from the label at all for any of these things. It didn't help that the song for the Mummy movie was pretty craptastic, but the band should have been playing that and Deep Enough on every late night show. Instead, the label was pushing Simple Creed.

Awful.

[tiger]

Let's get it back on track.

I find it incredibly interesting that the label fumbled V so badly. Deep Enough, IMO, would have been a great single in that climate. It had the remix in the Fast and the Furious that would have backed it too.

We all complained about the rap stuff, but I think, given what CT has said, that the label picked up all of the rap songs because of what was popular at the time.

Between Fast and the Furious, Mummy Returns, and Overcome at 9/11 it should have been a big album even if the songs were complete garbage (some of them were), but if everyone remembers, there was little to no push from the label at all for any of these things. It didn't help that the song for the Mummy movie was pretty craptastic, but the band should have been playing that and Deep Enough on every late night show. Instead, the label was pushing Simple Creed.

Awful.

Deep Enough is about as un Live like as anything they've done. Can't stand that song. Simple Creed is light years better. No way Deep Enough would have held up on radio amidst all the aggressive nu metal. Probably nothing on V would have. Might as well put out the better songs, and Simple Creed is one of them. Heard Ed perform it acoustic on a radio promo and it was great. Take out all the funked up production and rapping and it's a solid song. Can't say the same for "Does he run it deep enough".

[thefunkyredcaboose]

Deep Enough is about as un Live like as anything they've done. Can't stand that song. Simple Creed is light years better. No way Deep Enough would have held up on radio amidst all the aggressive nu metal. Probably nothing on V would have. Might as well put out the better songs, and Simple Creed is one of them. Heard Ed perform it acoustic on a radio promo and it was great. Take out all the funked up production and rapping and it's a solid song. Can't say the same for "Does he run it deep enough".

That is entirely subjective. What isn't subjective is that having Deep Enough on the radio while The Fast and the Furious was killing it in the theaters would have been preferable over having Simple Creed, which we can say with certainly was a complete waste on radio.

The single releases from the album made absolutely no sense given how many opportunities were out there.

[tiger]

That is entirely subjective. What isn't subjective is that having Deep Enough on the radio while The Fast and the Furious was killing it in the theaters would have been preferable over having Simple Creed, which we can say with certainly was a complete waste on radio.

The single releases from the album made absolutely no sense given how many opportunities were out there.

Sure, they could have moved a few more units while driving the nail further in he coffin with a song like deep enough. I think releasing an acoustic version of simple creed similar to mtv unplugged or a bare bones rock version similar to what Chris Cornell did with Long Gone would have resonated with Live fans much more and maybe kept the flame burning for those that didn't get V.

[thefunkyredcaboose]

Sure, they could have moved a few more units while driving the nail further in he coffin with a song like deep enough. I think releasing an acoustic version of simple creed similar to mtv unplugged or a bare bones rock version similar to what Chris Cornell did with Long Gone would have resonated with Live fans much more and maybe kept the flame burning for those that didn't get V.

I don't see the quality gap between the two songs that you do I guess. I like them both. They both have awkward rap elements and really terrible lyrics, though.

I just remember that the feeling around the community when we started getting crunchy, distorted live recordings of Deep Enough was that V was going to be awesome. Then they released the 1:30 versions of the songs and excitement started to wane a bit because we heard Call Me a Fool for the first time.

Then the album came out and everyone was divided. Oh, the Illout days...