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I'm looking for the text or posts by Chad T on the V - or any of the post-TDTH albums. I've always wanted to know the backstory as to why my favorite favorite band went off-track. Can someone link to them? Or summarize what he's said?


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Let's get it back on track.

I find it incredibly interesting that the label fumbled V so badly. Deep Enough, IMO, would have been a great single in that climate. It had the remix in the Fast and the Furious that would have backed it too.

We all complained about the rap stuff, but I think, given what CT has said, that the label picked up all of the rap songs because of what was popular at the time.

Between Fast and the Furious, Mummy Returns, and Overcome at 9/11 it should have been a big album even if the songs were complete garbage (some of them were), but if everyone remembers, there was little to no push from the label at all for any of these things. It didn't help that the song for the Mummy movie was pretty craptastic, but the band should have been playing that and Deep Enough on every late night show. Instead, the label was pushing Simple Creed.

Awful.


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QUOTE(thefunkyredcaboose @ Aug 10 2011, 4:27 am) *

Let's get it back on track.

I find it incredibly interesting that the label fumbled V so badly. Deep Enough, IMO, would have been a great single in that climate. It had the remix in the Fast and the Furious that would have backed it too.

We all complained about the rap stuff, but I think, given what CT has said, that the label picked up all of the rap songs because of what was popular at the time.

Between Fast and the Furious, Mummy Returns, and Overcome at 9/11 it should have been a big album even if the songs were complete garbage (some of them were), but if everyone remembers, there was little to no push from the label at all for any of these things. It didn't help that the song for the Mummy movie was pretty craptastic, but the band should have been playing that and Deep Enough on every late night show. Instead, the label was pushing Simple Creed.

Awful.


Deep Enough is about as un Live like as anything they've done. Can't stand that song. Simple Creed is light years better. No way Deep Enough would have held up on radio amidst all the aggressive nu metal. Probably nothing on V would have. Might as well put out the better songs, and Simple Creed is one of them. Heard Ed perform it acoustic on a radio promo and it was great. Take out all the funked up production and rapping and it's a solid song. Can't say the same for "Does he run it deep enough".




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QUOTE(tiger @ Aug 10 2011, 9:06 am) *

Deep Enough is about as un Live like as anything they've done. Can't stand that song. Simple Creed is light years better. No way Deep Enough would have held up on radio amidst all the aggressive nu metal. Probably nothing on V would have. Might as well put out the better songs, and Simple Creed is one of them. Heard Ed perform it acoustic on a radio promo and it was great. Take out all the funked up production and rapping and it's a solid song. Can't say the same for "Does he run it deep enough".


I wish they never released V. Right at that point, I lost all respect for Live as song-writers. I wish they could take it back and pretend it never happened. Oh well.


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QUOTE(LolEd @ Aug 10 2011, 7:58 am) *

I wish they never released V. Right at that point, I lost all respect for Live as song-writers. I wish they could take it back and pretend it never happened. Oh well.


Unfortunately for many fans this is their jump the shark moment that they never recovered from. They really needed to right the ship with BOP but they were too fragmented at that point and even more so by SFBM.

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sellingthdrama   Chad Taylor on V   Aug 5 2011, 7:54 pm
OutToDry   here you go: http://allthingschadtaylor.blogspot....   Aug 5 2011, 8:13 pm
sellingthdrama   here you go: http://allthingschadtaylor.blogspot...   Aug 5 2011, 8:26 pm
OutToDry   Youre quite welcome   Aug 5 2011, 8:29 pm
SecretInsomnia   Can't stop thinking about this phrase: If C...   Aug 6 2011, 4:42 am
+Ed+   Those were Grace and Rome :D   Aug 6 2011, 8:49 am
Merica   Fuckin' labels, man. Business and art aren...   Aug 6 2011, 8:51 am
Hoodstock   Fuckin' labels, man. Business and art aren...   Aug 6 2011, 9:22 am
Orion0767   I thought that I had read through all of these pos...   Aug 8 2011, 6:41 pm
sellingthdrama   I thought that I had read through all of these po...   Aug 9 2011, 8:38 am
SJN1279   I will say though that we don't have the whol...   Aug 9 2011, 3:47 pm
Orion0767   I , too , am thankful for Ed ... but I am having a...   Aug 9 2011, 3:38 pm
OutToDry   THe facts are: Said Business Mgr.....did push for...   Aug 9 2011, 5:55 pm
SJN1279   THe facts are: Said Business Mgr.....did push fo...   Aug 9 2011, 6:28 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   All of this discussion has so little to do with th...   Aug 9 2011, 6:41 pm
dangum   Here's an article that appeared in Rock Sound...   Aug 10 2011, 7:01 am
Pokey   CT: Well, I'm afraid that's based on comm...   Aug 10 2011, 7:14 am
Orion0767   Regardless of whether it matters or not , this sub...   Aug 9 2011, 7:31 pm
tiger   Regardless of whether it matters or not , this su...   Aug 9 2011, 7:37 pm
sellingthdrama   Yeah, it's been beaten to death on this board...   Aug 9 2011, 7:54 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Instead of discussing the ramifications of the lab...   Aug 9 2011, 8:27 pm
OutToDry   Yes, the original point of this thread was to help...   Aug 9 2011, 8:43 pm
LolEd   Unfortunately for many fans this is their jump th...   Aug 10 2011, 11:16 am
thefunkyredcaboose   I wish they never released V. Right at that point...   Aug 10 2011, 11:23 am
thefunkyredcaboose   Deep Enough is about as un Live like as anything ...   Aug 10 2011, 11:21 am
tiger   That is entirely subjective. What isn't subj...   Aug 10 2011, 11:36 am
thefunkyredcaboose   Sure, they could have moved a few more units whil...   Aug 10 2011, 12:23 pm
Deku   :whistling:   Aug 10 2011, 7:27 am
thefunkyredcaboose   :whistling: Yeah... they might have even felt t...   Aug 10 2011, 7:49 am
Pokey   I know we all know how things turned out musical q...   Aug 10 2011, 11:53 am
+Ed+   Damn, I still visit Illout every now and then...   Aug 10 2011, 12:53 pm


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