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Hobbsy
post Aug 5 2011, 2:10 am
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Time to get rid of all of the Ed shit. It's time to move on.

This is a Fans of Live website not a shrine to Ed.

Ed's moved on, Live's moved on - and we don't need photo's of Ed, info on Ed, Ed fans or Ed's crap.

Fans of Live - not fans of Live plus "a little bit of space for that guy who used to sing for them".

I'm fine to have the history and the "archives" but I'm sick of seeing this guy's face and I'm sick of hearing his name.

Bring on the new Live. Bring on the future. Cya Ed.



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post Aug 6 2011, 11:33 am
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Live with a new singer can't really do much worse than they did towards the end with Ed when it comes to sales (which shouldn't be important to those who value integrity and the art itself), so I don't know what Nick is wanting to do if they fail.

Ed made them fail sales wise at the end so... you know...

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post Aug 6 2011, 11:39 am
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QUOTE(Merica @ Aug 6 2011, 12:33 pm) *

Live with a new singer can't really do much worse than they did towards the end with Ed when it comes to sales (which shouldn't be important to those who value integrity and the art itself), so I don't know what Nick is wanting to do if they fail.

Ed made them fail sales wise at the end so... you know...

*shrug*


Overseas LIVE at the end with did strong sales, particuarly in Holland. Also sales for SFBM were much better than for Alive or The Gracious Few in the US. SFBM reached #3 on the Billboard Indie charts, while Alive or TGF didn't make the top 25.

That said the new CD could do okay and should outperform ALIVE and The Gracious Few(just on name alone). Where new LIVE will run into trouble is on tour. They may do okay at first, but once the audiences sees that their is a new singer, they will be rejected by many fans. Like it or not, most fans go to see LIVE in concert to hear the hits performed by LIVE(with Ed doing the vocals). This new version will not suffice. You can't change what worked for 20 years and think it will do well.


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post Aug 6 2011, 12:06 pm
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Aug 7 2011, 2:39 am) *

Overseas LIVE at the end with did strong sales, particuarly in Holland. Also sales for SFBM were much better than for Alive or The Gracious Few in the US. SFBM reached #3 on the Billboard Indie charts, while Alive or TGF didn't make the top 25.

That said the new CD could do okay and should outperform ALIVE and The Gracious Few(just on name alone). Where new LIVE will run into trouble is on tour. They may do okay at first, but once the audiences sees that their is a new singer, they will be rejected by many fans. Like it or not, most fans go to see LIVE in concert to hear the hits performed by LIVE(with Ed doing the vocals). This new version will not suffice. You can't change what worked for 20 years and think it will do well.


So what? If people aren't happy with it then fuck 'em, time for them to move on to other things and the ones who legit enjoy Live 2.0 and be left to just enjoy it. Does it really matter what the success is in those terms? What matters is the god damn music, I just don't understand how you can't understand that. How they perform commercially is mildly interesting at best. It should not be the defining factor and thought process.
If people go to the show and they expected to see Ed then that's their own damn fault for not even bothering to look into who they are spending money to go and see. Doesn't take much to punch a few words into google.
Why should you cater to the average fan who just wants to see the hits? If you have any kind of artistic credibility and are a musician with self respect towards you art, you do what YOU want and those who like it can like it, and those who don't can find something else.
Touring as a damn nostalgia act just playing the hits are just mind numbingly dull. People who go to gigs "just to hear the hits" piss me off, yeah I know that's a large portion of people, but people are stupid.

So fuck this image of whether it will "do well" and focus on more on if it will sound good.
You still haven't answered why you're still here? You said it yourself you wanted to be counted out, and you have no interest in Live going forward so just ... go stick with Ed. Why keep hanging onto something when all it's going to cause you is negative feelings?


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Hobbsy   Get Rid of it all   Aug 5 2011, 2:10 am
SecretInsomnia   Time to get rid of all of the Ed shit. It's t...   Aug 5 2011, 10:20 am
janine5683   This is a Fans of Live website not a shrine to Ed...   Aug 5 2011, 11:01 am
Deku   Insomnia's right. Live have a past as well as ...   Aug 5 2011, 1:28 pm
SinfulEyes   Insomnia's right. Live have a past as well as...   Aug 5 2011, 1:30 pm
WaiterAtCliftons   As much as I despise the way things all went down ...   Aug 5 2011, 5:11 pm
OutToDry   The music will live on. Can't take away Ed...   Aug 5 2011, 7:48 pm
SecretInsomnia   The music will live on. Can't take away Ed...   Aug 6 2011, 4:46 am
Deku   Tell you what does need to stop though - all this ...   Aug 6 2011, 7:22 am
SJN1279   Tell you what does need to stop though - all this...   Aug 6 2011, 8:05 am
Pokey   It is only going to get worse when they offiicial...   Aug 6 2011, 8:12 am
tiger   It is only going to get worse when they offiicial...   Aug 6 2011, 8:34 am
SJN1279   Eh, who cares if a few narrow minded people can...   Aug 6 2011, 8:49 am
tiger   What made me become a fan of LIVE in the first pl...   Aug 6 2011, 8:57 am
SJN1279   So Ed is the only one that can have spirituality?...   Aug 6 2011, 9:01 am
tiger   Alter Bridge didn't call themselves Creed, an...   Aug 6 2011, 9:10 am
Pokey   Alter Bridge didn't call themselves Creed, an...   Aug 6 2011, 11:11 am
tiger   Jesus christ, fuck off with this bands "maki...   Aug 6 2011, 11:21 am
+Ed+   What if the new frontman is so much better than Ed...   Aug 6 2011, 8:49 am
Merica   I think as soon as we get some new promo pictures ...   Aug 6 2011, 8:55 am
Hoodstock   Time to get rid of all of the Ed shit. It's t...   Aug 6 2011, 9:18 am
Merica   Overseas LIVE at the end with did strong sales, p...   Aug 6 2011, 11:45 am
SJN1279   They're taking Live in a new direction, whic...   Aug 6 2011, 12:08 pm
tiger   CCP should embrace the hiatus of LIVE, form a n...   Aug 6 2011, 12:20 pm
SJN1279   there is nothing worse than some nostalgia act p...   Aug 6 2011, 12:29 pm
tiger   The best acts do both. The best acts to whateve...   Aug 6 2011, 12:32 pm
Pokey   The best acts do both. You equate "best...   Aug 6 2011, 12:34 pm
SJN1279   You equate "best" with most successful....   Aug 6 2011, 12:36 pm
Merica   We just see music very differently. So you admi...   Aug 6 2011, 12:38 pm
Pokey   We just see music very differently. You just do...   Aug 6 2011, 12:40 pm
tiger   We just see music very differently. Yeah, last ...   Aug 6 2011, 12:51 pm
SJN1279   Yeah, last time I reply to this BS too. You reall...   Aug 6 2011, 1:00 pm
tiger   I never said CCP shouldn't carry on the spiri...   Aug 6 2011, 1:04 pm
Merica   Which is what they did with The Gracious Few. LI...   Aug 6 2011, 12:29 pm
OutToDry   The vortex is churning the hate & criticism 24...   Aug 6 2011, 11:57 am
SJN1279   The vortex is churning the hate & criticism 2...   Aug 6 2011, 12:11 pm
tiger   If Ed was reforming LIVE with new musicians, I...   Aug 6 2011, 12:22 pm
jaybb   If Ed was reforming LIVE with new musicians, I...   Aug 8 2011, 6:34 pm
OutToDry   What's watered down? The vortex?   Aug 6 2011, 12:11 pm
Pokey   I have him on ignore now, it's brilliant. If h...   Aug 6 2011, 1:10 pm
SinfulEyes   I have him on ignore now, it's brilliant. If ...   Aug 8 2011, 3:33 pm
sh4rpz   Hi, just to ease (or worsen?) some tension off th...   Aug 8 2011, 3:59 pm
Pokey   The... Hair :omg:   Aug 8 2011, 5:15 pm
Merica   Jesus... what a horrible time for fashion that rea...   Aug 8 2011, 5:21 pm
OutToDry   The Hair & Clothes - 'Zedd' ...the ma...   Aug 8 2011, 5:30 pm
OutToDry   sorry, duplicate   Aug 8 2011, 5:32 pm
Hoodstock   http://mediafiveent.com/archive/artistlist/publica...   Aug 8 2011, 6:12 pm
Wambangalang   I thnik the proof ius in the acronym. You said eec...   Aug 9 2011, 4:17 am
maccaz69   Oh C'mon thats bullshit Ed will always be part...   Aug 9 2011, 4:27 am
Pokey   I think there is definitely a place for Ed on this...   Aug 9 2011, 4:31 am


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