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post Jul 17 2010, 2:40 pm
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Saw this from a new poster at TGF:



CT's twitter:

"On the beach. The calm before the storm. Oh & new LIVE material in the works. Can't say what right now but you'll like it! "





Me thinks he's relaxing and came up with a new tune.





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post Jul 28 2011, 3:52 am
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QUOTE(Pokey @ Jul 28 2011, 3:43 am) *

And as far as holding Ed to a standard he can't capture anymore, that's on Ed. He's chosen to cut ties with the guys who helped him create great music, and that was long before Live broke up. He chose to write on his own and his creativity fell apart because he used to write in a unit where creativity flourished. It's no coincidence when the writing style changed then so did the creative output. The fact is his creative drive seems to have gone, 2-3min basic pop songs are all he is willing to put out. But whatever you see that as being open to interpretation, I don't.


Again, you talk about creativity and writing style like your opinion is the objective truth. Again, you're assuming Ed's abilities. Again, you are avoiding all the other factors that Chad has already told you about, such as pressures in their label and music industry, and CCP's fault in the matter, and saying it was all Ed's decision.

QUOTE(Pokey @ Jul 28 2011, 3:43 am) *

As for the lawsuit, yeah maybe Ed did nothing wrong because "why would he?" but can you really dispute that he pushed the others out of the creative circle of Live and decided to basically go solo within the band? The act alone sounds like the act of a man who is after his own glory with a big ego. It just is so fitting he'd go after the financial glory too. Yes there is no 100% proof of this but he's shown nothing to the contrary. I mean that video interview where he got pushed on the issue. That just screamed guilty. But fair enough, you want 100% proof first before you'll quit the "crusade against bullshit" or whatever it is.


"The act alone" does not seem like glory or big ego to me at all. Again you are not recalling Chad. Its not like Ed had resistance from CCP, so they weren't being pushed out in the malevolent way you make it seem. Or he could have just as likely been trying to survive cause he could not perform at the level that CCP was doing. Maybe he was tired of grunge or darker music. Who knows. There are a million possible explanations.

That video interview does not sound like guilt to me at all. It sounds like an interviewer who is asking questions that Ed can't answer because of a current lawsuit, and annoyance that the interviewer was not promoting the album, which is the only reason Ed was doing the interview in the first place. On top of which the interviewer was catching him off guard about that emotional subject, and insulting Ed throughout the interview on other topics. Or maybe if Ed did explain the contract properly, it would require talking about money figures, and that would not be something Ed should discuss. Or maybe it would point out that Ed would make a lot of money for some reason, which would reinforce alot of stupid fans' ideas of Ed being greedy, when in fact Ed might deserve the money. Who knows. The last thing it points out IMO, is guilt. That is not evident to me after seeing it again. It sounds more like Ed thinking fast about how to avoid the interviewers' bullshit.

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OutToDry   New Live?   Jul 17 2010, 2:40 pm
+Ed+   Or he saw our thread about the requests? :)   Jul 17 2010, 2:47 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   Or he saw our thread about the requests? :) Tha...   Jul 17 2010, 4:49 pm
livebat   Or he saw our thread about the requests? :) mor...   Jul 17 2010, 2:48 pm
Sakhmet2   more likely... :rockin: :happy: :hoppy:   Jul 17 2010, 8:54 pm
TheBeacon   HMMM... Maybe in the settlement they get to relea...   Jul 17 2010, 2:51 pm
Plive   Probably the coming Live - Collected 3CD; (ean 060...   Jul 17 2010, 3:22 pm
janine5683   Can't wait to learn more about this.   Jul 17 2010, 6:40 pm
TheBeacon   This would be ironic if it was the LIVE Collected ...   Jul 17 2010, 8:01 pm
SecretInsomnia   I wonder if it would include a studio version of ...   Jul 18 2010, 4:30 am
Hoodstock   Saw this from a new poster at TGF: CT's t...   Jul 17 2010, 11:11 pm
Pokey   "new Live material in the works" could ...   Jul 17 2010, 11:43 pm
SecretInsomnia   It could also mean a new album. That would mean ...   Jul 18 2010, 4:27 am
thefunkyredcaboose   I would be shocked if this were anything other tha...   Jul 17 2010, 11:52 pm
Merica   Chad Taylor on Facebook:   Jul 18 2010, 5:24 am
Deku   I wonder if it would include a studio version of ...   Jul 18 2010, 5:42 am
GraciousLivEddieK?   Chad Taylor The Live stuff is not new material but...   Jul 18 2010, 6:58 am
sh4rpz   Chad Taylor The Live stuff is not new material bu...   Jul 18 2010, 8:07 am
crazy1   Chad Taylor The Live stuff is not new material bu...   Jul 18 2010, 3:51 pm
+Ed+   WAHEEEEEEEEEEY   Jul 18 2010, 7:20 am
SecretInsomnia   WOOOEHOOOEEEEEEEEEE!!!! the b-si...   Jul 18 2010, 7:47 am
OutToDry   THis is great isnt it Chad is the man.   Jul 18 2010, 8:00 am
Heather   Wow! :omg: I never thought I'd see the d...   Jul 18 2010, 8:19 am
Aitkens   It's amazing considering if the other guy had ...   Jul 18 2010, 8:21 am
dangum   Do you think it will be an actual CD or downloads?...   Jul 18 2010, 8:24 am
sh4rpz   Do you think it will be an actual CD or downloads...   Jul 18 2010, 12:58 pm
+Ed+   Homespun? Does it even exsist anymore? :)   Jul 18 2010, 10:11 am
NectarDan   Chad is just so fucking cool. That said, I can...   Jul 18 2010, 11:09 am
TheBeacon   Chad is just so fucking cool. That said, I can...   Jul 18 2010, 11:33 am
Aitkens   So does Ed even have a say in this release? Anyon...   Jul 18 2010, 11:33 am
thefunkyredcaboose   So does Ed even have a say in this release? Anyon...   Jul 18 2010, 3:30 pm
crazy1   So does Ed even have a say in this release? Anyon...   Jul 18 2010, 3:53 pm
Badman   I really hope they release this as an album and no...   Jul 18 2010, 11:24 am
TheBeacon   I doubt it will be an actual LIVE album release. I...   Jul 18 2010, 11:25 am
Deku   :kiss:   Jul 18 2010, 11:48 am
icewaterike   Very pumped for the idea of this. Chad is the man...   Jul 18 2010, 12:18 pm
zmanpga   sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet chicken ....thats good shit r...   Jul 18 2010, 1:45 pm
imheyjude   sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet chicken ....thats good shit ...   Jul 18 2010, 2:22 pm
Sonic Tonic   pip pip cheerio :thumbsup:   Jul 18 2010, 1:59 pm
Deku   It's heartening to know that Chad still gives ...   Jul 18 2010, 3:22 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Is Homespun still there? There isn't any way ...   Jul 18 2010, 3:27 pm
LivesMeltdown   Is Homespun still there? There isn't any way...   Jul 18 2010, 4:24 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Hm, well I'll wait and see what happens. I wa...   Jul 18 2010, 5:13 pm
TheBeacon   How about when you purchase the new TGF album you ...   Jul 18 2010, 5:17 pm
Nobody Knows   Fuck, they better not make me join a club. Anyhow,...   Jul 18 2010, 5:19 pm
Wambangalang   i like   Jul 18 2010, 7:34 pm
OutToDry   Yeah this is the coolest thing ever. I mean they ...   Jul 18 2010, 8:25 pm
beau99   I never could afford Homespun and still can't,...   Jul 18 2010, 9:07 pm
EF341SC   hope they release Hold Me Up :yay: :rockin: :ro...   Jul 19 2010, 12:48 am
tarduk   i hope these ll be the sometinng new which we dont...   Jul 19 2010, 1:32 am
+Ed+   How about when you purchase the new TGF album you...   Jul 19 2010, 1:49 am
swami   Got the goods on this, and....they aren't that...   Jul 19 2010, 3:14 pm
TheBeacon   Got the goods on this, and....they aren't tha...   Jul 19 2010, 4:27 pm
swami   OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!...   Jul 19 2010, 4:37 pm
Badman   Alright, alright. Don't lose hope. I'm ...   Jul 19 2010, 7:14 pm
swami   You suck swami. :angry: Nah, man. If I was S...   Jul 19 2010, 7:19 pm
SecretInsomnia   Alright, alright. Don't lose hope. I'm ...   Jul 20 2010, 11:56 am
Merica   Assuming that's the real deal then that's ...   Jul 19 2010, 3:17 pm
swami   Assuming that's the real deal then that's...   Jul 19 2010, 3:24 pm
OutToDry   Chad's offering will be 'gifted'   Jul 19 2010, 3:28 pm
Aitkens   Chad's offering will be 'gifted' E...   Jul 19 2010, 5:24 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I can't believe anyone thought Swami was serio...   Jul 19 2010, 5:25 pm
TheBeacon   I can't believe anyone thought Swami was seri...   Jul 19 2010, 8:51 pm
Aitkens   However, now that Ed is not involved maybe that is...   Jul 19 2010, 8:55 pm
LiveFan92   Considering past experience with a bunch of false...   Jul 20 2010, 10:21 am
FishOutaWater   When there is an ugly divorce and the parents star...   Jul 20 2010, 11:01 am
EF341SC   When there is an ugly divorce and the parents sta...   Jul 21 2010, 12:43 am
SecretInsomnia   I have no idea why Ed wouldn't want the fans ...   Jul 20 2010, 12:01 pm
Sakhmet2   How do we know that *anyone* was a dissenting voic...   Jul 20 2010, 5:41 pm
SecretInsomnia   How do we know that *anyone* was a dissenting voi...   Jul 20 2010, 5:45 pm
Pokey   How do we know that *anyone* was a dissenting voi...   Jul 20 2010, 10:09 pm
Plive   Regarding the 3-CD I contacted Universal... Not m...   Jul 20 2010, 11:28 pm
Merica   Regarding the 3-CD I contacted Universal... Not ...   Jul 21 2010, 2:37 am
Sakhmet2   I'm all for blaming everything on Ramy... ? ...   Jul 21 2010, 4:49 pm
+Ed+   ok, kids, let us all play the game of a possible v...   Jul 14 2011, 7:49 am
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