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Saw this from a new poster at TGF:



CT's twitter:

"On the beach. The calm before the storm. Oh & new LIVE material in the works. Can't say what right now but you'll like it! "





Me thinks he's relaxing and came up with a new tune.





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post Jul 28 2011, 2:04 am
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Jul 28 2011, 4:14 pm) *

Claims get filed which often seem like shots in the dark. CCP may have not been privy to the reasons why Ed and Levin had been doing everything legally. This lawsuit would at least force discovery. Ed and Levin both claim that they had not stolen anything. I could pose the same question to you and ask why Ed and Levin would say that they were acting in their legal right if it they didn't have just cause. Could Ed have really been so stupid as to steal in plain sight? There are plenty of potential scenario's here.
These array of things people are using to base their opinion of Ed are often not well thought out.

-Chad has repeatedly said that Ed's "domination" was not contested, or at times consensual, and the fault of all the band members. This was combined with many other factors - record label crap, Ed's fading abilities, change in the music industry. This power struggle does not show to me that Ed was a bad to his bandmates or egotistical.

-Being bereft of creativity is how I see it, but not how Ed's current legions of fans see it. For the millionth time, creativity is just an opinion. And not something that should really be connected to whether or not Ed is a scoundrel.

-Yeah, I tend to give famous people leeway when it comes to interacting with fans. You never know who you're dealing with when some random person jumps up to you. Being rude to the fans is not cool but whatever, I'm personally fine with that. However, I really don't hear too many stories of Ed being bad to fans, and we never hear Ed's side of the story either.
ODT has been talking out his ass long before he claims to have snuck a few words in with whoever.
I'm pro-rationalization - anti-bullshit. Not fighting for equality.
you never know. I saw him play in concert this year. I really don't think he has it in him to do much better anymore. He's got his cookie cutter show, and I think it suits him now.


Ok i'll actually respond to some more of these.

Firstly I'm not saying CCP had no part in the blame of ending Live. Their crime was not ending it sooner before it got out of hand. But for whatever reason they hung around, I would see it as trying to keep a friendship and brothership together, like fighting for a marraige. Nick has said before they only stuck around because it earned them more money. Yes I'm sure they did earn more, but come on, REALLY what do you think was the main motivator for sticking around? I say it was to continue to work on things and that they probably just didn't know how to end it, it was a confusing and messed up time and their best friend was slipping away. Nick says its all $$$, I'm sure you'll say we'll never know so we shouldn't speculate.

As for the creativity thing, there is a big difference. Yes anyone can like anything, if someone like's Ed's music and they think it's creative, then that's fine. That doesn't make it so though. I'm judging it by his own standards, the quality of his writing compared to what he used to write, not even about the subject because obviously as you get older that can change. But the quality itself has gotten poorer, that is undeniable. Yes it means that someone can still like it, and yes Ed is talented, but he's not pushing himself anymore to the limits we know he can reach. And there are people out there that may call it creative, but they're more than likely basing that on terms of knowing they could not do better. Sure Ed right now is more creative than a vast majority of people, he's an artist. But by his own standards, no, the creativity has long dropped off. You said it yourself, cookie cutter, that's what it is now.
I never have disputed Nick's love of Ed's music, if he likes it, that's totally fine, it's everything else that comes with it about him which is off.


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OutToDry   New Live?   Jul 17 2010, 2:40 pm
+Ed+   Or he saw our thread about the requests? :)   Jul 17 2010, 2:47 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   Or he saw our thread about the requests? :) Tha...   Jul 17 2010, 4:49 pm
livebat   Or he saw our thread about the requests? :) mor...   Jul 17 2010, 2:48 pm
Sakhmet2   more likely... :rockin: :happy: :hoppy:   Jul 17 2010, 8:54 pm
TheBeacon   HMMM... Maybe in the settlement they get to relea...   Jul 17 2010, 2:51 pm
Plive   Probably the coming Live - Collected 3CD; (ean 060...   Jul 17 2010, 3:22 pm
janine5683   Can't wait to learn more about this.   Jul 17 2010, 6:40 pm
TheBeacon   This would be ironic if it was the LIVE Collected ...   Jul 17 2010, 8:01 pm
SecretInsomnia   I wonder if it would include a studio version of ...   Jul 18 2010, 4:30 am
Hoodstock   Saw this from a new poster at TGF: CT's t...   Jul 17 2010, 11:11 pm
Pokey   "new Live material in the works" could ...   Jul 17 2010, 11:43 pm
SecretInsomnia   It could also mean a new album. That would mean ...   Jul 18 2010, 4:27 am
thefunkyredcaboose   I would be shocked if this were anything other tha...   Jul 17 2010, 11:52 pm
Merica   Chad Taylor on Facebook:   Jul 18 2010, 5:24 am
Deku   I wonder if it would include a studio version of ...   Jul 18 2010, 5:42 am
GraciousLivEddieK?   Chad Taylor The Live stuff is not new material but...   Jul 18 2010, 6:58 am
sh4rpz   Chad Taylor The Live stuff is not new material bu...   Jul 18 2010, 8:07 am
crazy1   Chad Taylor The Live stuff is not new material bu...   Jul 18 2010, 3:51 pm
+Ed+   WAHEEEEEEEEEEY   Jul 18 2010, 7:20 am
SecretInsomnia   WOOOEHOOOEEEEEEEEEE!!!! the b-si...   Jul 18 2010, 7:47 am
OutToDry   THis is great isnt it Chad is the man.   Jul 18 2010, 8:00 am
Heather   Wow! :omg: I never thought I'd see the d...   Jul 18 2010, 8:19 am
Aitkens   It's amazing considering if the other guy had ...   Jul 18 2010, 8:21 am
dangum   Do you think it will be an actual CD or downloads?...   Jul 18 2010, 8:24 am
sh4rpz   Do you think it will be an actual CD or downloads...   Jul 18 2010, 12:58 pm
+Ed+   Homespun? Does it even exsist anymore? :)   Jul 18 2010, 10:11 am
NectarDan   Chad is just so fucking cool. That said, I can...   Jul 18 2010, 11:09 am
TheBeacon   Chad is just so fucking cool. That said, I can...   Jul 18 2010, 11:33 am
Aitkens   So does Ed even have a say in this release? Anyon...   Jul 18 2010, 11:33 am
thefunkyredcaboose   So does Ed even have a say in this release? Anyon...   Jul 18 2010, 3:30 pm
crazy1   So does Ed even have a say in this release? Anyon...   Jul 18 2010, 3:53 pm
Badman   I really hope they release this as an album and no...   Jul 18 2010, 11:24 am
TheBeacon   I doubt it will be an actual LIVE album release. I...   Jul 18 2010, 11:25 am
Deku   :kiss:   Jul 18 2010, 11:48 am
icewaterike   Very pumped for the idea of this. Chad is the man...   Jul 18 2010, 12:18 pm
zmanpga   sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet chicken ....thats good shit r...   Jul 18 2010, 1:45 pm
imheyjude   sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet chicken ....thats good shit ...   Jul 18 2010, 2:22 pm
Sonic Tonic   pip pip cheerio :thumbsup:   Jul 18 2010, 1:59 pm
Deku   It's heartening to know that Chad still gives ...   Jul 18 2010, 3:22 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Is Homespun still there? There isn't any way ...   Jul 18 2010, 3:27 pm
LivesMeltdown   Is Homespun still there? There isn't any way...   Jul 18 2010, 4:24 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Hm, well I'll wait and see what happens. I wa...   Jul 18 2010, 5:13 pm
TheBeacon   How about when you purchase the new TGF album you ...   Jul 18 2010, 5:17 pm
Nobody Knows   Fuck, they better not make me join a club. Anyhow,...   Jul 18 2010, 5:19 pm
Wambangalang   i like   Jul 18 2010, 7:34 pm
OutToDry   Yeah this is the coolest thing ever. I mean they ...   Jul 18 2010, 8:25 pm
beau99   I never could afford Homespun and still can't,...   Jul 18 2010, 9:07 pm
EF341SC   hope they release Hold Me Up :yay: :rockin: :ro...   Jul 19 2010, 12:48 am
tarduk   i hope these ll be the sometinng new which we dont...   Jul 19 2010, 1:32 am
+Ed+   How about when you purchase the new TGF album you...   Jul 19 2010, 1:49 am
swami   Got the goods on this, and....they aren't that...   Jul 19 2010, 3:14 pm
TheBeacon   Got the goods on this, and....they aren't tha...   Jul 19 2010, 4:27 pm
swami   OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!...   Jul 19 2010, 4:37 pm
Badman   Alright, alright. Don't lose hope. I'm ...   Jul 19 2010, 7:14 pm
swami   You suck swami. :angry: Nah, man. If I was S...   Jul 19 2010, 7:19 pm
SecretInsomnia   Alright, alright. Don't lose hope. I'm ...   Jul 20 2010, 11:56 am
Merica   Assuming that's the real deal then that's ...   Jul 19 2010, 3:17 pm
swami   Assuming that's the real deal then that's...   Jul 19 2010, 3:24 pm
OutToDry   Chad's offering will be 'gifted'   Jul 19 2010, 3:28 pm
Aitkens   Chad's offering will be 'gifted' E...   Jul 19 2010, 5:24 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I can't believe anyone thought Swami was serio...   Jul 19 2010, 5:25 pm
TheBeacon   I can't believe anyone thought Swami was seri...   Jul 19 2010, 8:51 pm
Aitkens   However, now that Ed is not involved maybe that is...   Jul 19 2010, 8:55 pm
LiveFan92   Considering past experience with a bunch of false...   Jul 20 2010, 10:21 am
FishOutaWater   When there is an ugly divorce and the parents star...   Jul 20 2010, 11:01 am
EF341SC   When there is an ugly divorce and the parents sta...   Jul 21 2010, 12:43 am
SecretInsomnia   I have no idea why Ed wouldn't want the fans ...   Jul 20 2010, 12:01 pm
Sakhmet2   How do we know that *anyone* was a dissenting voic...   Jul 20 2010, 5:41 pm
SecretInsomnia   How do we know that *anyone* was a dissenting voi...   Jul 20 2010, 5:45 pm
Pokey   How do we know that *anyone* was a dissenting voi...   Jul 20 2010, 10:09 pm
Plive   Regarding the 3-CD I contacted Universal... Not m...   Jul 20 2010, 11:28 pm
Merica   Regarding the 3-CD I contacted Universal... Not ...   Jul 21 2010, 2:37 am
Sakhmet2   I'm all for blaming everything on Ramy... ? ...   Jul 21 2010, 4:49 pm
+Ed+   ok, kids, let us all play the game of a possible v...   Jul 14 2011, 7:49 am
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