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post Jul 14 2011, 11:47 am
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Are there any Live songs that you think the band missed the mark on and you wish that you could go back and redirect them to redo the songs?

There are two songs that I always thought rocked and could have been HUGE hits but Live totally fucked up - Sun and Flow. If the changes I mentione were made these would be two of the best songs Live ever did. Instead they're songs I can't listen to.

When I heard the music of each song the very first time I was thinking "Holy Shit" this is awesome - this song fucking rocks. But then, as quickly as I started falling in love with them, the songs self destructed.

I absolutely love everything about Sun except for this:

sun sun merciful one
sun sun
sun sun won't you lay down your light on us
sun sun


I think this is the worst mistake Ed made lyrically during his time with Live. I think if you could go back and just cut this part out, or re-pen these cheesy lines and improve them at all, you would have an instant Live hit. The music is absolutely awesome as well as the rest of the song. I always hoped that some alternative version of this song with a different refrain would appear.

Flow is a huge disappointment to me because this, with Simple Creed, would have made V a respectable album. I also think Flow would have been a huge single. I love everything about this song musically and lyrically until Ed starts screaming "Flow". It's totally unnecessary in song and it ruins it. It's like nails on chalkboard. If I could find a way to edit the Flow sceams out this song would be phenominal.

Anyway - do you have any opinion on my songs or any songs of your own you wish Live would have done slightly differently?


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post Jul 17 2011, 8:23 pm
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Abandon SFBM, just abort it, act like it never occurred.

BOP needs some new lyrics and themes, that would help it.

V needs to have Forever May Not Be Long Enough, Call Me a Fool, and Nobody Knows cut. Overcome needs to be the full band version. The rest of the songs need entirely new lyrics and themes.

TDTH, while good, I want it to be more like the demos. Louder Guitars, Bass, and Drums. Also make it a double disc and include Deeper, Don't Wait, Still Aroused, and Vine Street.

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post Jul 18 2011, 8:21 am
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QUOTE(Aitkens @ Jul 17 2011, 8:23 pm) *

Abandon SFBM, just abort it, act like it never occurred.

BOP needs some new lyrics and themes, that would help it.

V needs to have Forever May Not Be Long Enough, Call Me a Fool, and Nobody Knows cut. Overcome needs to be the full band version. The rest of the songs need entirely new lyrics and themes.

TDTH, while good, I want it to be more like the demos. Louder Guitars, Bass, and Drums. Also make it a double disc and include Deeper, Don't Wait, Still Aroused, and Vine Street.



The only change I would have made is that SFBM would be ok if some changes were made to the songs.

1. Cut The River, Mystery, Love Shines, All I Need and You Are Not Alone

2. I like Get Ready until the sing along part in the chorus. Nix that part and come up with a heavier chorus

3. Where do We go from Here and Home - need better lyrics

4. Let CCP have input on the other 5 songs that would replace the ones cut and we would have had a solid album.


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Hoodstock   Live Redo's   Jul 14 2011, 11:47 am
deepenoughtodive   I think most of V was pretty awesome musically but...   Jul 14 2011, 1:05 pm
Hoodstock   Totally agree. Overcome should have been whole ba...   Jul 14 2011, 7:47 pm
T.B.D   My name stems from one of my favs, TBD. Great son...   Jul 15 2011, 3:25 pm
Wambangalang   i think flow is awesome, especially when ed starts...   Jul 15 2011, 6:41 pm
MrSheptical   I think they should change that part in SFBM wher...   Jul 16 2011, 1:23 am
SinfulEyes   I agree. Songs From Brokeback Mountain kinda suck...   Jul 16 2011, 10:55 am
Merica   i think flow is awesome, especially when ed start...   Jul 17 2011, 3:15 am
World Dreamer   I really like Radiant Sea minus the middle where t...   Jul 17 2011, 6:45 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I thought Night of Nights would have been awesome ...   Jul 17 2011, 6:55 pm
Hoodstock   I thought Night of Nights would have been awesome...   Jul 17 2011, 7:28 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   A few people have mentioned liking that song. I...   Jul 17 2011, 8:18 pm
Pokey   I actually seem to remember Ed stating that he act...   Jul 17 2011, 7:04 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I actually seem to remember Ed stating that he ac...   Jul 17 2011, 7:10 pm
Pokey   I remember he said that it was good that if it was...   Jul 17 2011, 7:16 pm
Hoodstock   Abandon SFBM, just abort it, act like it never oc...   Jul 18 2011, 12:43 pm
SecretInsomnia   You can never take away The River from me! ...   Jul 18 2011, 12:59 pm
Hoodstock   probably the best outtake out there, and should h...   Jul 18 2011, 2:36 pm
SecretInsomnia   Hey, I like The River, I never said you can't...   Jul 18 2011, 2:55 pm
Hoodstock   but I never implied you said I can't, OR that...   Jul 18 2011, 6:57 pm
Merica   Don't Wait > Deeper Chad T's with me o...   Jul 19 2011, 3:25 am
Pokey   Yeah I'm with Hoodie on this one, i'm not ...   Jul 19 2011, 4:58 am
Merica   I'd love to know what TDTH album they submitte...   Jul 19 2011, 5:42 am
Pokey   I thought Ed wanted The Distance to be the first s...   Jul 19 2011, 6:29 am
briburge   I liked the big bang version of they stood up for ...   Jul 19 2011, 8:19 am
OutToDry   I wish Walk in the dream was released as a single....   Jul 19 2011, 9:04 am
Aitkens   I wish Live released MTV Unplugged, had released a...   Jul 19 2011, 9:17 am
SecretInsomnia   I wish Live released MTV Unplugged, had released ...   Jul 19 2011, 10:49 am
Aitkens   Well, the shows I've seen of Live weren't...   Jul 19 2011, 10:58 am
SecretInsomnia   I'm going to call bullshit on 30+ song setlis...   Jul 19 2011, 11:10 am
Aitkens   yeah, I can't find the 30+ set they played in...   Jul 19 2011, 11:25 am
SecretInsomnia   That must have been a once in a lifetime night. ...   Jul 19 2011, 11:55 am
OutToDry   yeah these longer sets were not the norm, they onl...   Jul 19 2011, 5:07 pm
Pokey   Pretty sure I remember at the time the 97 gig I we...   Jul 19 2011, 5:27 pm


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