Public school system in the USA Options

[SJN1279]

Do the taxpayers in the district that fund your $28,000/yr salary for your 8 months a year that you actually have to show up for work feel that they are getting their money's worth on that venture?

You are probably the least qualified here to discuss anything of financial matters.

I actually am an administrator in my school district and work all 12 months. Always nice when people knock education though.

[PurdueSteve]

I actually am an administrator in my school district and work all 12 months. Always nice when people knock education though.

So that means you make 3 times (or more) what you're actually worth, and then pretend that because you "think" that you are educating kids, as opposed to creating authority worshippers, that you're actually earning your keep.

This is OT, but I really cannot stand the self-righteous nature of those in the public education system that act like they aren't a leech on society, but rather something virtuous. Here's a news flash Mr. Administrator, you and the rest of your ilk are doing a very poor job. I'm within my right to "knock" that, as I'm capable of observation and understanding.

Again, this is OT, but this is the character that you are. When you live day in and day out within a position wherein you do not measure success by success, but rather by how long you can keep the charade going, why else should anyone expect anything different when it comes to an honest opinion regarding Eddie K, TGF or Live. You've been formally trained to ignore truth. You've been paid to teach children the same thing and work within a system that ignores truth. You are a walking embodiment of the concepts of anti-brain, anti-reason and anti-mind. Not that you had any credibility before now, but in case you did linger on to a shred, it should now be considered lost. Who can believe a fucking word you say?

e: I won't regret this post in 5 years. I guarantee it.

[Edit: this thread was not created by PurdueSteve. I have moved the 'public school' discussion from the Ed has no plans to rejoin Live thread into this new topic. -dangum]

This post has been edited by dangum: Jul 13 2011, 11:01 pm

[SJN1279]

So that means you make 3 times (or more) what you're actually worth, and then pretend that because you "think" that you are educating kids, as opposed to creating authority worshippers, that you're actually earning your keep.

This is OT, but I really cannot stand the self-righteous nature of those in the public education system that act like they aren't a leech on society, but rather something virtuous. Here's a news flash Mr. Administrator, you and the rest of your ilk are doing a very poor job. I'm within my right to "knock" that, as I'm capable of observation and understanding.

Again, this is OT, but this is the character that you are. When you live day in and day out within a position wherein you do not measure success by success, but rather by how long you can keep the charade going, why else should anyone expect anything different when it comes to an honest opinion regarding Eddie K, TGF or Live. You've been formally trained to ignore truth. You've been paid to teach children the same thing and work within a system that ignores truth. You are a walking embodiment of the concepts of anti-brain, anti-reason and anti-mind. Not that you had any credibility before now, but in case you did linger on to a shred, it should now be considered lost. Who can believe a fucking word you say?

e: I won't regret this post in 5 years. I guarantee it.

I know for a fact that I've made a positive impact in a lot of my student's lives, and I truly care for their well being. My wife also is a teacher that really cares about her students and works her butt off to educate them. I also know a lot of teachers in my district(I would say the majority) who care and do the best job they can for their students.

You can post whatever you want about education, but I definitely disagree with putting all teachers in one lump sum.

[PurdueSteve]

I know for a fact that I've made a positive impact in a lot of my student's lives, and I truly care for their well being. My wife also is a teacher that really cares about her students and works her butt off to educate them. I also know a lot of teachers in my district(I would say the majority) who care and do the best job they can for their students.

You can post whatever you want about education, but I definitely disagree with putting all teachers in one lump sum.

Regardless of what kind of fluff you say, it's inarguable that the education system in this country is piss-poor. It's obvious, to anyone with a pulse, that the system isn't designed to educate. The proof is that you, and people just like you, refuse to accept that reality. You refuse to acknowledge that the system is broken and that it doesn't work. You refuse to accept the reality that the system is more about politics, political posturing, unions then it is about teaching children how to think and learn even simple concepts. The proof for this, is that when talking to someone like you, instead of responding with evidence to measurable success you say things like "I know for a fact that I've made a positive impact in a lot of my student's lives". Which isn't even remotely a statement regarding the quality of education that you have delivered them. That kind of statement, which probably comes as a knee-jerk reaction for you, is one that is designed so that one cannot respond with critique. Who in the right mind could say anything bad about a man that has had a positive impact on children? It's not politically correct and it's not nice. The truth is you're paid to educate and you're failing. You're failing miserably and you will continue to fail miserably until you actually educate people. Your job isn't to just have a positive impact but to educate.

For others, I know this is OT, but it really isn't as far OT as it seems at face value. This message board is so cluttered with the same repetitive arguments and they all lead back to Ned. His dominating presence combined with a now explainable allergy to logic, reason and reality is the reason for the clutter. I'm not qualified to speak on matters of psychology or whatever, but it would appear that most people (certainly myself included) cannot resist the urge to constantly correct a person who repeatedly denies the observable reality around them. Every single day people come behind him and correct his clearly wrong statements. Why? Maybe now that people know that Ned represents the exact opposite of thought and not only lacks the ability to see truth, but the ability to even seek it out, then maybe they will start ignoring him. His affliction goes much further than an irrational Eddie K love affair.