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post May 6 2011, 2:59 pm
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Howzit... Long time lurker (actually since the 'hiatus'...) and enjoying your posts a lot. Would like your opinion...at the time of Live at the Paradiso, was the magic gone already? Or only later? I saw Live 'live' on 15 and 16 June 2000, and each gig thereafter in Johannesburg...but I really think Live at the Paradiso captured the energy...unless they (ed?) were acting?

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post May 13 2011, 1:31 pm
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This might have been asked when Paradiso was released but:

1) Why are there songs not on the CD that are on the DVD?
2) Are there songs that were performed that weren't on either?

I thought Paradiso had some great moments and some moments where you go do the dishes or something (Wings).

I wish they started the show with something else. If you take the top 16 songs they have I don't think you would find Simple Creed anywhere close. I know it is a faster song and all that but play Stage or something.


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post May 14 2011, 8:09 am
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QUOTE(World Dreamer @ May 13 2011, 1:31 pm) *

1) Why are there songs not on the CD that are on the DVD?


Check the wikipedia article that Dan linked to.
However, the article says :
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"White, Discussion" and "Shit Towne" were also played at the Paradiso show but were cut out from the DVD/CD.

Those weren't the only songs that didnt make the dvd, too bad.

For example, Sofia, TDAOC, Voodoo Lady (if I remember correctly) and some others.
Funny cooincidence is that TDAOC - the song that many in this thread should be the opener - was one of the last songs. I don't rembember if they played Mystery RTTW that night, now I think about it.

Leaving Sofia (which had a very cool buil-up intro), Shit Towne and especially White, Discussion, is a f*cking crime. Ecpecially when Wings was added instead of them.



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post May 17 2011, 9:01 am
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QUOTE(SecretInsomnia @ May 14 2011, 3:09 pm) *

Those weren't the only songs that didnt make the dvd, too bad.

Exactly. In fact, they played 25 (!) songs the night the DVD was shot. These are all missing from the DVD/CD:
  • Waitress
  • Iris
  • Run to the Water
  • White, Discussion
  • Sofia
  • Voodoo Lady
  • The Dam At Otter Creek
  • Shit Towne

It was said that they had to cut down on the number of tracks in favor of audio/video quality of the dvd. I've no idea if this makes any sense though.


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QUOTE(Gertjan @ May 17 2011, 11:01 pm) *
It was said that they had to cut down on the number of tracks in favor of audio/video quality of the dvd. I've no idea if this makes any sense though.

Theoretically this is correct, the more footage you put on a DVD (after a certain point) the lower the quality of the video but I will do the figures tonight and report back.

How many minutes do you think these extra 8 tracks would have taken up?


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SoL   Live at the Paradiso   May 6 2011, 2:59 pm
Hoodstock   That show(s) sucked. There are so many bootlegs o...   May 6 2011, 4:58 pm
sh4rpz   Howzit... Long time lurker (actually since the ...   May 11 2011, 5:24 pm
SoL   Yes I read the reply from Chad...and referring to ...   May 12 2011, 1:22 am
SecretInsomnia   Live shows were full of energy and awesomeness unt...   May 12 2011, 11:14 am
Pokey   I liked some of the things Ed did with his voice b...   May 12 2011, 11:28 am
Hoodstock   I wish they started the show with something else....   May 13 2011, 1:45 pm
Aitkens   Simple Creed should be the first song they ever p...   May 13 2011, 7:22 pm
Hoodstock   Disagree 100%. I've seen them plenty of time...   May 13 2011, 7:35 pm
Hoodstock   Simple Creed should be the first song they ever p...   May 14 2011, 7:48 am
dangum   1) Why are there songs not on the CD that are on ...   May 13 2011, 7:17 pm
World Dreamer   Exactly. In fact, they played 25 (!) songs th...   May 17 2011, 2:50 pm
Gertjan   How many minutes do you think these extra 8 tracks...   May 18 2011, 2:27 am
OutToDry   wfg would be next   May 13 2011, 7:26 pm
Aitkens   There's only one big difference between Rattle...   May 13 2011, 7:39 pm
Hoodstock   Rattlesnake was the perfect opener, because it wa...   May 13 2011, 7:44 pm
Aitkens   That worked in 1997. This is 2011. Rattlesnake ...   May 13 2011, 7:51 pm
Pokey   lol such a shame because they are all by far some ...   May 17 2011, 10:32 am
OutToDry   Anyone have those videos? They should have made a...   May 17 2011, 11:29 am
SecretInsomnia   I think W,D ; Sofia and Shit Towne are on youtube...   May 17 2011, 3:17 pm
Pokey   but if they're on youtube im guessing they...   May 17 2011, 4:03 pm
SecretInsomnia   but if they're on youtube im guessing they...   May 17 2011, 4:36 pm
+Ed+   My friends who went to those shows said that TDAOC...   May 17 2011, 11:47 pm
SecretInsomnia   My friends who went to those shows said that TDAO...   May 18 2011, 8:32 am
Wambangalang   Just re-reading chads reply to our letter again, s...   May 18 2011, 5:10 am
FishOutaWater   Just re-reading chads reply to our letter again, ...   May 18 2011, 5:48 am
Pokey   Have I mentioned how great it is to watch Paradis...   May 18 2011, 6:17 am
FishOutaWater   ...I too have a television :( except I use mine...   May 18 2011, 7:34 am
OutToDry   Ha ha! Now THAT's funny. I would not h...   May 18 2011, 7:45 am
Pokey   I didn't mean to show off with my post. I ho...   May 18 2011, 7:50 am
Gertjan   Have I mentioned how great it is to watch Paradis...   May 18 2011, 6:20 am
SecretInsomnia   Just re-reading chads reply to our letter again, ...   May 18 2011, 8:38 am
Merica   It was simply criminal to leave out White, Discuss...   May 18 2011, 5:27 am
OutToDry   Ah that comment from the blog, yeah kind of heartr...   May 18 2011, 7:37 am
Aitkens   The best thing to happen to Railo was his drug add...   May 18 2011, 9:34 am
FishOutaWater   I watched Live at Paradiso on the big screen last ...   Jun 16 2011, 8:41 am
Hoodstock   My recommendation to everyone is NOT to watch tha...   Jun 16 2011, 4:56 pm
throwing_cheetahs   I tried watching it last week. I'd say with ...   Jun 16 2011, 6:02 pm
SecretInsomnia   I tried watching it last week. I'd say with ...   Jun 16 2011, 6:20 pm
Aitkens   although it would be an awesome timing to film th...   Jun 16 2011, 6:33 pm
PurdueSteve   Really, that's why you would be against it? ...   Jun 16 2011, 7:01 pm
SecretInsomnia   Really, that's why you would be against it? ...   Jun 16 2011, 7:24 pm
Hoodstock   although it would be an awesome timing to film th...   Jun 16 2011, 7:16 pm
dangum   although it would be an awesome timing to film th...   Jun 17 2011, 1:08 am
smellthecoffee   I watched Live at Paradiso on the big screen last...   Jun 16 2011, 5:36 pm
LolEd   Maybe a nice cappuccino or espresso could cheer y...   Jun 16 2011, 5:43 pm
smellthecoffee   I knew it! I knew Ed was amongst us! Lo...   Jun 16 2011, 5:59 pm
+Ed+   In terms of video quality? Maybe. When I watched ...   Jun 17 2011, 12:01 am
+Ed+   If I were in Live, I would definitely make Ed...   Jun 17 2011, 2:37 am
SecretInsomnia   If I were in Live, I would definitely make Ed...   Jun 21 2011, 11:31 am
Merica   They should really have had a DVD per album cycle....   Jun 21 2011, 11:37 am
LolEd   They should really have had a DVD per album cycle...   Jun 21 2011, 11:56 am
Pokey   They probably did but Ed stole all of the proceed...   Jun 21 2011, 6:10 pm
World Dreamer   Ed probably had them edited to where the concert l...   Jun 22 2011, 8:42 am


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