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post Apr 21 2011, 11:59 am
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Sorry if this was posted before!

http://www.rockinvasion.de/video/gracious-few

Duration: 10:20

Quite a nice and relaxed interview. The accent of the German interviewer is quite funny tho smile.gif.

Chad says they're still planning to try to get into one room with the four LIVE members. That'd be in like... 3 months?


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post Apr 27 2011, 5:38 pm
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I find it shocking that an album as good as TGF's might be swept under the rug this quick. The whole world should listen to this fucking album. It's WORTH it.


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QUOTE(Merica @ Apr 27 2011, 6:38 pm) *

I find it shocking that an album as good as TGF's might be swept under the rug this quick. The whole world should listen to this fucking album. It's WORTH it.


I gotta be honest, that is all on the guys. I love what they do, but too many missteps were made in the first tour, and there has been no follow-up since. I really just don't think they realized how little name value they would take into the new band, and how different things would be than with Candlebox or Live.

When Appetite was picking up steam on the radio they needed to tour, tour, tour but at the height of its popularity the tour ended. I'm assuming that had to do with losing money. That sucks. They haven't been off the road for too long in general musical terms, but for a new band they have been off the road forever.

Think about this - when I was touring my band played around 80 shows a year. We toured as the four of us and our only cost was food and gas. That's a lot of cost, but even at the worst shows we generally made that back. We managed to turn a small profit playing shows that ranged from only 15-100 people.

If TGF had slimmed things down at the beginning - no tour manager, no huge bus, no stage crew, just take along yourselves and a sound guy, the tour could have been a lot more profitable for them. The cost to have all of those amenities could have been put into promotion for singles, posters in cities, and general use. They did a lot of slimming down to make the tour work, but the initial inflated ticket prices was a pretty big sign that it would be a struggle. Shoot, no one at Summerfest knew who they were because there was zero promotion. I was worried then.

Making a living doing this is very different than what I've done, but I think the same principles still apply. You slim down your touring outfit and put your money into promotion. Ed is able to do that naturally by getting a big slice of income at acoustic shows, for TGF it needed to happen in other ways.

For example - I talked with the owner of the Visulite before their Charlotte show. He told me about their touring contract and how many pages of stuff they had to mark through because they couldn't fulfill it. The venues they were playing were not the kind of venues that the guys , from Live especially, were used to seeing. That's just the way it is.

The life of a mid-level touring band is not a rock star life. It is all grit and work. They traded that when they decided to not brand themselves as being related to Live or Candlebox. I think the guys got part of the way there - the use of social media was strong, they really started to connect with their fans, and they definitely found a way to make the tour work - but, you've got to get all the way there to make it work.

I do hope the band will give it another shot, but the self-titled album is dead in the water unless they hit the road soon, or they are using this time to push songs at movies, tv shows, etc. etc. Shoot, it isn't hard to get your song on a TV show these days, you just have to either build the connection or foot the bill. They've talked about wanting to get on with a bigger band to tour - I hope they can do that, but I don't know how you show a bigger band that you can help their show by not touring yourself.

It isn't that the music isn't amazing - it's that no one knows it exists. Facebook, Twitter, etc. can't do that for you. Radio play, television spots, movie spots, and touring will.


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SecretInsomnia   TGF interveiwed by rockinvasion   Apr 21 2011, 11:59 am
OutToDry   Not posted here yet, and thank you. Great intervi...   Apr 21 2011, 8:04 pm
SJN1279   Not posted here yet, and thank you. Great interv...   Apr 21 2011, 8:26 pm
tiger   I thought that Chad Taylor came off very well in ...   Apr 22 2011, 10:01 am
SJN1279   Satisfied now? Satisfied regarding what?   Apr 22 2011, 10:19 am
tiger   Satisfied regarding what? Nice try. I take that ...   Apr 22 2011, 10:23 am
OutToDry   Sure he does, he tells it like it is. MAtter of f...   Apr 21 2011, 9:46 pm
Wambangalang   is kevins dad australian? coz he nailed the accent...   Apr 21 2011, 11:09 pm
FishOutaWater   Great interview. I like the way they articulate t...   Apr 22 2011, 8:38 am
SJN1279   in the future we get Ed solo, TGF and a better v...   Apr 22 2011, 6:43 pm
Merica   Fun interview. Fingers crossed they do all get int...   Apr 23 2011, 4:52 am
Bremang   The breakup might have been contrived, or Chad cou...   Apr 24 2011, 3:08 am
FishOutaWater   The breakup might have been contrived, or Chad co...   Apr 24 2011, 10:27 am
SecretInsomnia   "Just talked to Chad Taylor on the phone fo...   Apr 24 2011, 4:32 pm
Bremang   just a few weeks before the hiatus, when he sa...   Apr 25 2011, 12:02 am
OutToDry   Legal docs worth their weight in promo gold? Lega...   Apr 25 2011, 12:55 pm
Bremang   Looking for something to write about for you...   Apr 25 2011, 6:44 pm
OutToDry   Gosh last i checked this was Live discussion. ...   Apr 25 2011, 7:13 pm
Bremang   Nah, not really, mysterious LOL. Come on g...   Apr 26 2011, 2:51 am
Hoodstock   Didn't Chad say that Ed could not be reached ...   Apr 25 2011, 7:07 pm
Bremang   Last time I remember Ed addressing the whole iss...   Apr 26 2011, 2:53 am
OutToDry   perhaps it was Ed's reply to CT wanting to kno...   Apr 24 2011, 12:09 pm
Bremang   perhaps it was Ed's reply to CT wanting to kn...   Apr 24 2011, 11:51 pm
Bremang   .   Apr 24 2011, 11:55 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Yes, the break up is contrived. What else explain...   Apr 24 2011, 5:39 pm
Bremang   Yes, the break up is contrived. What else explai...   Apr 24 2011, 11:53 pm
tiger   If they were looking for a reaction from the fans...   Apr 25 2011, 1:10 pm
Bremang   Dude, your arguments always remind me of this. ...   Apr 25 2011, 6:51 pm
Wambangalang   from what i remember of chads famous post which im...   Apr 25 2011, 4:28 am
Hoodstock   It's interesting. Chad states this July the...   Apr 25 2011, 7:04 pm
OutToDry   I really like Kevin's take on what music is ...   Apr 25 2011, 7:15 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I would rather have more TGF than more Live. Ha...   Apr 25 2011, 10:12 pm
FishOutaWater   I would rather have more TGF than more Live. H...   Apr 26 2011, 8:25 am
deepenoughtodive   What if we still get TGF, and we get new Live tha...   Apr 26 2011, 9:39 am
FishOutaWater   :D Sorry, that line made me laugh Fish. What th...   Apr 26 2011, 10:10 am
SecretInsomnia   What if we still get TGF, and we get new Live tha...   Apr 26 2011, 1:20 pm
+Ed+   With the huge differences in directions they took...   Apr 25 2011, 11:53 pm
OutToDry   It would be great Fish, really that would be optim...   Apr 26 2011, 8:51 am
FishOutaWater   It would be great Fish, really that would be opti...   Apr 26 2011, 9:30 am
SJN1279   It would be great Fish, really that would be opti...   Apr 26 2011, 9:45 am
deepenoughtodive   Can you really blame him? Can I blame him for ...   Apr 26 2011, 9:46 am
Bremang   Can I blame him for not wanting to make music ...   Apr 26 2011, 1:57 pm
OutToDry   Can you really blame him? can't blame him bu...   Apr 26 2011, 10:36 am
tiger   Can you really blame him? We can blame you. You...   Apr 26 2011, 10:56 am
Merica   I doubt the whole break up has been contrived to g...   Apr 26 2011, 10:02 am
OutToDry   That deserves a BIG FUCK YOU WOW!!! :...   Apr 26 2011, 3:32 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I love that song so much.   Apr 26 2011, 9:56 pm
Pokey   <3 Lily   Apr 27 2011, 7:37 am
live2cd   It seems to me as if Chad wants to try his best to...   Apr 27 2011, 2:57 pm
Hoodstock   Summer tours are filling up, I dont see their nam...   Apr 27 2011, 4:49 pm
SecretInsomnia   It seems to me as if Chad wants to try his best t...   Apr 27 2011, 5:21 pm
zmanpga   Summer dates are filling up.....maybe they will to...   Apr 27 2011, 3:26 pm
live2cd   Haha, Id be happy with an all OH/PA summer tour. ...   Apr 27 2011, 3:33 pm
OutToDry   I'd be happy with a slew of NY/PA/NJ/MD dates....   Apr 27 2011, 4:20 pm
live2cd   i know they did a couple weeks in europe, but they...   Apr 28 2011, 10:35 am
tiger   I wouldn't expect these guys to approach TGF t...   Apr 28 2011, 12:01 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I wouldn't expect these guys to approach TGF ...   Apr 28 2011, 1:56 pm
tiger   But, that is how they approached TGF at least par...   Apr 28 2011, 2:24 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   No doubt it was probably more difficult than they...   Apr 28 2011, 3:08 pm
OutToDry   I agree with your overall point. My problem is ...   Apr 28 2011, 7:53 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Um, i hear what you're saying and I know you ...   Apr 28 2011, 8:32 pm
dangum   While the owner of the Visulite though the tour r...   Apr 28 2011, 9:04 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Have you got any examples of some of the items on...   Apr 28 2011, 9:40 pm
World Dreamer   It would be cool for a tour of Candlebox and Live ...   Apr 28 2011, 12:34 pm
OutToDry   It would be cool for a tour of Candlebox and Live...   Apr 28 2011, 12:46 pm
zmanpga   It would be cool for a tour of Candlebox and Live...   Apr 28 2011, 1:21 pm
Hoodstock   If they abaondoned the album and tour because of e...   Apr 28 2011, 4:03 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   II think for the Live members of TGF it just got ...   Apr 28 2011, 6:58 pm
OutToDry   No issues with the points you raised but I am not ...   Apr 28 2011, 8:37 pm
OutToDry   they have a guy named Simon Renshaw on board. He...   Apr 29 2011, 7:37 am
thefunkyredcaboose   they have a guy named Simon Renshaw on board. He...   Apr 29 2011, 8:04 am
live2cd   Either Chad has been reading this thread or its a ...   Apr 29 2011, 11:39 am
thefunkyredcaboose   I am definitely a detractor, that's why I... ...   Apr 29 2011, 12:41 pm
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