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LIVECan you help to reunite LIVE? If FB can start a revolution and over throw governments then why can’t it bring LIVE back together? Your turn.



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QUOTE(Gruno @ Apr 4 2011, 3:47 am) *


As for Ed's silence: Don't read anything further into it. Why does Ed need to say anything publicly? Why does he have to address this at all publicly? Why should he be chastised for handling things the way he sees fit? When did this ALL become public record? Yes, the lawsuit filing is public and those records are understandable, but just because someone is silent does not mean those allegations are true (or false) --- it just means that person chooses to not air things publicly, for good or bad.

Some here have applauded Chad Taylor for "wearing his heart on his sleeve" and being very "passionate" with his public messages. Ed's silence isn't looked at as "he is showing great restraint by not responding" or "He must also be hurting through this all". No. What we get with the majority here is just how "silence must mean guilt" and "of course he can't respond because he is a d*ck".


A lot stems from an interview of Ed by some Dutch guy where he tried to bring up the subject of the law suit and the surrounding issues. The interviewer wasn't being a prick or attacking him. Simpley trying to get some information as a good interviewer should. Ed's reaction to this was just awkward, uncomfortable and reeked of guilt to me. He was getting defensive and a little aggressive. His body language was telling. His answers were even more incriminating. The whole overuse of the word "mischaracterisation" was telling. I know you can't tell a whole story from that. But it's a part of it.
But the Ed bashing has come from all forms even down to people's personal experiences with him. A public profile has been compiled over the last few years and it just doesn't paint a pretty picture.

He doesn't NEED to respond publicly, sure. But Other than legal reasons I see no reason not to. Responding publicly doesn't mean getting into a shit slinging match. Hell if it were legal reasons that he was advised not to speak about it then simply saying so would be a step forward.
So no, the alone silence is not an admission of guilt. But it's one of a whole array of things that just fits the puzzle.

Like I said before, I'm willing to look at the whole picture, it's just that nothing to me seems to really point in Ed's favour. If silence was the only thing making me doubt his innocence then I'd probably give him the benefit of the doubt. Hell I idolised the dude for years. It's not easy to not give him the benefit of the doubt. But its the fact that there are so many other factors at play that can't be ignored as to why I see the silence as nothing more than him not wanting to deal with a mess he made.

Nick on the other hand is just seeing the want of CCP to reform Live as an admission of them being wrong. Ignoring all other reasons as to why they could possibly want this reunion. As I said, I personally think it's a strange move as well. But I very highly doubt it is purely economically driven which is the point he loves to make. That CCP are nothing without Ed. As a fan of the band from 1991, to me that is offensive. Nick shows absolutely no love for Live's music at all.
I've said it before, it's like someone claiming they're a football fan. He's picked a team, he'll read the game stats, buy and promote the merchendice, read the results ... but he won't watch the games. As I said, he rubs people the wrong way. He's not a victim.


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OutToDry   Can you Help Reunite Live?   Mar 31 2011, 7:43 am
VoodooLady   [color=#3b5998]LIVECan you help to reunite LIVE? ...   Mar 31 2011, 8:37 am
World Dreamer   If I went to a show and got the impression that th...   Mar 31 2011, 8:41 am
crazy1   I don't know. I want them to reunite BUT (sigh...   Mar 31 2011, 8:43 am
SJN1279   [color=#3b5998]LIVECan you help to reunite LIVE? ...   Mar 31 2011, 9:05 am
OutToDry   Maybe if they didn't publicly rip Ed and an...   Mar 31 2011, 9:15 am
tiger   Maybe if they didn't publicly rip Ed and anno...   Mar 31 2011, 9:16 am
VoodooLady   Maybe if they weren't so passionate about the...   Mar 31 2011, 10:04 am
jclive   Maybe if they didn't publicly rip Ed and anno...   Mar 31 2011, 9:42 am
PurdueSteve   Maybe if they didn't publicly rip Ed and anno...   Mar 31 2011, 10:00 am
michael39   Maybe if they didn't publicly rip Ed and anno...   Apr 1 2011, 3:09 am
OutToDry   I want more TGF. But a reunion show or shows woul...   Mar 31 2011, 9:08 am
SJN1279   I want more TGF. But a reunion show or shows wou...   Mar 31 2011, 9:10 am
OutToDry   Why the 180 degree change in attitude regarding...   Mar 31 2011, 9:18 am
Pokey   Why the 180 degree change in attitude regarding E...   Mar 31 2011, 11:44 pm
OutToDry   RE: Can you Help Reunite Live?   Mar 31 2011, 9:25 am
World Dreamer   I wonder if he meant the music has always been big...   Mar 31 2011, 9:27 am
OutToDry   That sounds like to me that the fans need some typ...   Mar 31 2011, 9:27 am
crazy1   That sounds like to me that the fans need some ty...   Mar 31 2011, 9:28 am
tiger   Sounds to me like CT has his passion for LIVE back...   Mar 31 2011, 9:35 am
deepenoughtodive   I don't think the timing is right for this. I...   Mar 31 2011, 9:40 am
OutToDry   I don't think the timing is right for this. I...   Mar 31 2011, 9:49 am
LivesMeltdown   This whole situation is really bizarre.   Mar 31 2011, 10:15 am
SecretInsomnia   Id Ed really did what CCP said, well... he should ...   Mar 31 2011, 12:12 pm
World Dreamer   perform Hold Me Up like there's no tomorrow. ...   Mar 31 2011, 12:17 pm
World Dreamer   I just hope they do it for the right reasons. Not ...   Mar 31 2011, 12:15 pm
Merica   Pretty bizarre. I think, if we get a form of LIVE ...   Mar 31 2011, 12:50 pm
smellthecoffee   Well, perhaps, a nice long sit down with a righteo...   Mar 31 2011, 12:57 pm
janine5683   Maybe Ed and CCP have already been talking and hav...   Mar 31 2011, 1:21 pm
jclive   Maybe Ed and CCP have already been talking and ha...   Mar 31 2011, 1:28 pm
SecretInsomnia   Maybe ALL of the drama we've seen has been fa...   Mar 31 2011, 1:43 pm
OutToDry   Yeah that music is so contrived eh? :happy: TGF...   Mar 31 2011, 1:52 pm
Hoodstock   [color=#3b5998]LIVECan you help to reunite LIVE? ...   Mar 31 2011, 3:28 pm
SecretInsomnia   :omg: If the was posted by CT then he must be bip...   Mar 31 2011, 4:44 pm
Existentialist   :omg: If the was posted by CT then he must be bip...   Mar 31 2011, 7:00 pm
Hoodstock   Sigh. Bipolar? Look it up, son. Your knowledge of...   Mar 31 2011, 7:11 pm
Existentialist   Jesus Fucking Christ! Why do board members ...   Apr 1 2011, 11:38 am
Bremang   :omg: If the was posted by CT then he must be b...   Apr 1 2011, 1:42 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   This is stupid.   Mar 31 2011, 4:16 pm
OutToDry   one of the best responses of the day on FB: Loo...   Mar 31 2011, 6:12 pm
Hoodstock   Looks like she sounds serious :D Somebody is ex...   Mar 31 2011, 6:46 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   TGF is better than anything Live did after TDTH. ...   Mar 31 2011, 9:33 pm
Bremang   I think this message was just trying to get people...   Apr 1 2011, 3:11 am
Wambangalang   bad idea, just reledse ther unoficiola stuff and l...   Apr 1 2011, 9:47 am
FishOutaWater   I don't get this. What's going on? Was t...   Apr 1 2011, 9:54 am
OutToDry   Like they did for TGF. This is proven method of s...   Apr 1 2011, 10:09 am
FishOutaWater   Like they did for TGF. This is proven method of ...   Apr 1 2011, 10:16 am
OutToDry   As much as I love TGF, can you imagine how grea...   Apr 1 2011, 10:20 am
thefunkyredcaboose   As much as I love TGF, can you imagine how great ...   Apr 1 2011, 10:56 am
Wambangalang   fucki my life. guys itd over,. just make hold me u...   Apr 1 2011, 10:15 am
Aitkens   Maybe I'm in the minority here, but all the cl...   Apr 1 2011, 10:33 am
Heather   Maybe I'm in the minority here, but all the c...   Apr 1 2011, 3:22 pm
Sonic Tonic   Maybe I'm in the minority here, but all the c...   Apr 1 2011, 7:51 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Would suck if they killed TGF just cause they kis...   Apr 1 2011, 10:46 pm
zmanpga   Maybe I'm in the minority here, but all the c...   Apr 2 2011, 5:02 am
Pokey   Yeah the fact I would only want Live back under su...   Apr 1 2011, 10:38 am
Merica   If they reformed and brought the house down with r...   Apr 1 2011, 11:20 am
zmanpga   wow....I only got to page one... :D :kicking:   Apr 1 2011, 7:21 pm
OutToDry   have they reached out to you yet for auditions??? ...   Apr 1 2011, 7:25 pm
zmanpga   have they reached out to you yet for auditions???...   Apr 2 2011, 5:10 am
Sonic Tonic   Oh shit. I've been working 7 days a week so I ...   Apr 1 2011, 8:47 pm
zmanpga   Lets' see....The Gracious Few is taking on inv...   Apr 2 2011, 5:07 am
thefunkyredcaboose   Lets' see....The Gracious Few is taking on in...   Apr 2 2011, 7:33 am
briburge   I am totally confused. what is chad doing?   Apr 2 2011, 1:43 pm
zmanpga   I am totally confused. what is chad doing? en...   Apr 2 2011, 3:38 pm
briburge   he hates ed now he wants to reunite? doesnt make ...   Apr 2 2011, 4:38 pm
tiger   I don't understand why this has to conform to ...   Apr 2 2011, 5:03 pm
OutToDry   he hates ed now he wants to reunite? doesnt make ...   Apr 2 2011, 7:17 pm
briburge   You need to start listening to the interviews for...   Apr 2 2011, 8:27 pm
tiger   Have u been reading your own posts for the last 2...   Apr 2 2011, 8:56 pm
brianne   Join the group Reunite +LIVE+ on Facebook!...   Apr 2 2011, 5:01 pm
OutToDry   He stopped badmouthing ed last summer. I think it...   Apr 2 2011, 8:42 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I don't believe CT or the guys hate Ed at this...   Apr 2 2011, 9:23 pm
tiger   I don't want to see CT stomping and grimaci...   Apr 2 2011, 9:28 pm
SJN1279   I wonder what the reaction of this board would hav...   Apr 2 2011, 9:39 pm
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