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post Mar 27 2011, 7:41 pm
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I've just listen again all my bootlegs of Live and right now I'm listen "I Alone" for the concert in the Chapel, date: 2000-03-13.

Just want to share, again, like everyone, how much I miss Ed... If this thread is repetitive, it's because all we are concerned in different ways... Like I said: It's not religions fault, but in a way the people who didn't know what to believe, finds the wrong answer on them.

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post Mar 30 2011, 12:08 am
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I did not read the whole thread, I can not take any of this christianity bullshit for pages and pages anymore, sorry guys.

But you know what stroke me? Every second post says that Christianity took our Ed frmo our Liev and made him a greedy bastard that sings Top with a grin.

NO

NO FUCKING WAY

It is not christianity that did it to him!

How can you not see that all this god-water-christ-christianity-kids-etc etc etc bullshit is simply a MASK! This way Ed only wanted to gain new potential listeners from christian rock ... errr... gangs or audiences or whatever you call them. I am sure he can say whatever he wants, on christianity, on finding his way etc etc but in MOST religions in the world SWITCHING religion is the biggest fucking sin, bigger than fucking your neghbour's wife while your kids are playing nearby or bigger than committing a suicide!

Does anyone not see it as a marketing promotion?

Damn, guys, come on!

We can dwell forever on the topic, but please guys leave the baldy alone and stop feeding the trolls =)


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post Mar 30 2011, 7:18 am
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switching religions is a sin?????... uh..... ok?????

have you ever heard of the prodigal son? http://christianity.about.com/od/biblestor...prodigalson.htm

and, someone said... "we're all atheist.... i just believe in one less god than you".

that makes no sense... a Christian is a monotheist.

and, saying that organized religion is evil and that it causes wars is not entirely true. while, i do agree that wars are started over it... that doesn't necessarily mean the religion, itself, is at fault. the law in america says that you can't use your house as a drug dealership... but, people do... and, when they get busted... there are fights... shootings... killings. now, i ask you... is this the laws fault or the peoples fault? so, just cause people start wars over religion doesn't make the religion at fault... unless of course the religion tells the people to start wars w/ other religions. there is a difference between defending your beliefs and obeying your beliefs. even though, i doubt Jesus ever taught to fight one another for what you believe in.

and, as for the one that said why is your belief any more true than another when you all believe in the invisible... Jesus Christ is not invisible. He walked this earth... there are facts for that. and, if you say there isn't... then show me the facts that christopher columbus walked the earth. you can't.. but, you know it's true. but, back to Jesus. He did walk the earth, and talk to people... and, my belief in Him is not from fairy tales... it's from an eye witness account (John), and Mark, who wrote his book from accounts of peter... who walked with Christ, and Matthew, Luke. http://carm.org/apologetics/evidence-and-a...ritten-and-whom

then some use logic to disprove religion... Christianity, in particular. but, Christianity doesn't use logic to base its reasoning on. it uses faith. Jesus told thomas that "he believed because he has seen, but blessed be the ones who believe but have not seen".

there are many questions about God that no one can answer. many try to come up w/ possible answers to prove or disprove God,... but, reality is, is that we must all make a decision on whether or not to believe what Jesus said to be true. i believe. was i raised to believe? yes. have i ever doubted along the way? yes. was it my parents belief that brought me back Jesus as the answer to my doubts? no.


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post Mar 30 2011, 9:19 am
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QUOTE(gotigrz @ Mar 30 2011, 8:18 am) *

and, someone said... "we're all atheist.... i just believe in one less god than you".

that makes no sense... a Christian is a monotheist.


Yes you are a monotheist. Because you only believe in one god, that means you lack belief in any of the thousands of other gods that people believe in, or at some point, believed in.

When you discover why you disbelieve in Zues, you'll see why I disbelieve in your God.


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livebat   "I'm not a christian, but it feels good to be in The Chapel"   Mar 27 2011, 7:41 pm
OutToDry   You may get it back someday Bat. Someday somehow....   Mar 27 2011, 7:57 pm
livebat   Hope so, I really do. Every single fuckin' day...   Mar 27 2011, 8:10 pm
OutToDry   Good stuff there man. At least you'll have yo...   Mar 27 2011, 8:16 pm
gotigrz   the thing is, is that ed (from everything i've...   Mar 29 2011, 7:31 am
PurdueSteve   the thing is, is that ed (from everything i'v...   Mar 29 2011, 9:10 am
deepenoughtodive   Just because someone has a history of something do...   Mar 29 2011, 9:32 am
PurdueSteve   Just because someone has a history of something d...   Mar 29 2011, 9:46 am
deepenoughtodive   Steve, I didn't mean to strike a nerve. Yes, I...   Mar 29 2011, 11:43 am
PurdueSteve   Steve, I didn't mean to strike a nerve. Yes, ...   Mar 29 2011, 11:52 am
deepenoughtodive   Again, your opinion is different from mine. You se...   Mar 29 2011, 12:39 pm
gotigrz   Again the same could be said from his beliefs at ...   Mar 29 2011, 12:56 pm
Sonic Tonic   i believe that his beliefs were genuine, but i do...   Mar 29 2011, 5:27 pm
FishOutaWater   Gosh, I need to chime in here, but i don't kno...   Mar 29 2011, 1:05 pm
deepenoughtodive   Very well stated Fish. I don't agree with a lo...   Mar 29 2011, 1:14 pm
Pokey   Do people stop believing in Christianity? Definit...   Mar 29 2011, 12:59 pm
Pokey   i physically prayed for the salvation of ed's...   Mar 29 2011, 10:27 am
deepenoughtodive   I prayed the same thing for a couple of years so y...   Mar 29 2011, 11:44 am
gotigrz   i believe that his beliefs were genuine, but i...   Mar 29 2011, 12:59 pm
PurdueSteve   i believe that his beliefs were genuine, but i do...   Mar 29 2011, 1:08 pm
deepenoughtodive   You seem pretty angry Steve. Christians can...   Mar 29 2011, 1:16 pm
PurdueSteve   You seem pretty angry Steve. Christians can...   Mar 29 2011, 1:19 pm
PurdueSteve   You seem pretty angry Steve. Christians can...   Mar 29 2011, 1:24 pm
Pokey   Nuff said. The Quran ins't genuine. Neither ...   Mar 29 2011, 1:28 pm
Bremang   the thing is, is that ed (from everything i'v...   Mar 29 2011, 2:45 pm
Merica   Yeah... Christianity sure ruined the fuck out of E...   Mar 29 2011, 1:17 pm
deepenoughtodive   Fair enough Steve. Faith is believing in the unsee...   Mar 29 2011, 1:33 pm
Pokey   Fair enough Steve. Faith is believing in the unse...   Mar 29 2011, 1:39 pm
deepenoughtodive   I honestly don't know enough about other relig...   Mar 29 2011, 1:52 pm
PurdueSteve   I honestly don't know enough about other reli...   Mar 29 2011, 1:57 pm
Pokey   I honestly don't know enough about other reli...   Mar 29 2011, 2:11 pm
deepenoughtodive   Pokey, I think that is a fair analogy. I certainl...   Mar 29 2011, 2:36 pm
World Dreamer   And in the end that's my real gripe, believe ...   Mar 29 2011, 2:50 pm
tiger   Don't Scientologists believe in frog monsters?   Mar 29 2011, 3:03 pm
Sonic Tonic   This is what fascinates me. Every religion then i...   Mar 29 2011, 5:44 pm
PurdueSteve   Fair enough Steve. Faith is believing in the unse...   Mar 29 2011, 1:42 pm
deepenoughtodive   And yet again, your position is that you are enlig...   Mar 29 2011, 1:51 pm
PurdueSteve   And yet again, your position is that you are enli...   Mar 29 2011, 1:54 pm
OutToDry   CsbYx6hevoQ   Mar 29 2011, 2:01 pm
deepenoughtodive   Steve, You are completely right, I stated that you...   Mar 29 2011, 2:24 pm
PurdueSteve   Steve, You are completely right, I stated that yo...   Mar 29 2011, 2:37 pm
FishOutaWater   Christianity is exclusive. Not all Christian...   Mar 29 2011, 3:28 pm
Sonic Tonic   Steve, You are completely right, I stated that yo...   Mar 29 2011, 5:57 pm
deepenoughtodive   Why do you insist on telling me what I can and can...   Mar 29 2011, 2:47 pm
OutToDry   what do religions have in common? need the cash ...   Mar 29 2011, 3:02 pm
Wambangalang   The God I believe in wants a relationship with pe...   Mar 29 2011, 4:21 pm
Aitkens   Organized religion is the root of all evil. It ap...   Mar 29 2011, 4:27 pm
ridley   i tried that one but after 8 years of me doing al...   Mar 29 2011, 4:46 pm
FishOutaWater   :D Not true, people are the root of all evil. Th...   Mar 29 2011, 5:05 pm
Pokey   Wambalang's post is hilareous. And good point...   Mar 30 2011, 1:54 am
Bremang   Organized religion is the root of all evil. It a...   Mar 29 2011, 6:33 pm
Aitkens   I was out hiking last year in the Adirondacks and...   Mar 29 2011, 6:37 pm
Bremang   The problem is that there are entirely too man...   Mar 29 2011, 7:24 pm
Sonic Tonic   I was out hiking last year in the Adirondacks and...   Mar 29 2011, 6:56 pm
Bremang   Cool. I mean the Adirondacks. I'll be hitt...   Mar 29 2011, 11:21 pm
tiger   ...   Mar 29 2011, 6:16 pm
rodrigolll2   This discussion reminded me of the following lyric...   Mar 29 2011, 7:27 pm
tiger   This thread reminded me of one of my favorite Sein...   Mar 29 2011, 7:27 pm
rodrigolll2   This thread reminded me of one of my favorite Sei...   Mar 29 2011, 7:37 pm
Pokey   and, as for the one that said why is your belief ...   Mar 30 2011, 7:48 am
gotigrz   well, honestly, i've never studied other rel...   Mar 30 2011, 8:35 am
Pokey   and, that's the fact that Jesus died, and, wa...   Mar 30 2011, 9:14 am
FishOutaWater   switching religions is a sin?????... uh..... ok??...   Mar 30 2011, 8:46 am
gotigrz   why'd you stop... i was lovin' it. i kn...   Mar 30 2011, 8:59 am
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OutToDry   My eyes and ears are bleeding guys!!!   Mar 30 2011, 8:48 am
gotigrz   My eyes and ears are bleeding guys!!...   Mar 30 2011, 9:00 am
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