"I'm not a christian, but it feels good to be in The Chapel", Ed Kowalczyk Options

[livebat]

I've just listen again all my bootlegs of Live and right now I'm listen "I Alone" for the concert in the Chapel, date: 2000-03-13.

Just want to share, again, like everyone, how much I miss Ed... If this thread is repetitive, it's because all we are concerned in different ways... Like I said: It's not religions fault, but in a way the people who didn't know what to believe, finds the wrong answer on them.

Want my +Live+ back!!!

[deepenoughtodive]

Fair enough Steve. Faith is believing in the unseen. The unproven. I believe and you don't.

Its funny to me that you think you illustrated anything about my logic.

[PurdueSteve]

Fair enough Steve. Faith is believing in the unseen. The unproven. I believe and you don't.

Yes that is what the word means somewhat. I'd say it goes beyond the unseen. I can't see radio waves but I know they exist. I don't have faith in radio waves. Their existence can be proven and measured. However I digress, I know your point.

Its funny to me that you think you illustrated anything about my logic.

I did illustrate something about your logic. You consider the debate on the existence of God to be at an equivalent null or standstill. You characterize your belief against my disbelief and then are trying to make them logically equal positions. They aren't. Your belief in the existence of a God isn't logically valid because I have failed to prove he doesn't exist. You've failed to disprove the existence of the 3-legged frog I described, would it be logical for everyone reading this post to believe in that creature? No, of course not. I could sit here all day making up creatures, stories and Gods and you'd dismiss them all without hesitation and you'd be logically right to do so. It just so happens that there is one particular God that you don't dismiss. That illustrates your logic perfectly well.

This post has been edited by PurdueSteve: Mar 29 2011, 1:44 pm

[deepenoughtodive]

And yet again, your position is that you are enlightened and have a firm grasp on things but I don't. That's fine by me, your opinion.

Yes that is what the word means somewhat. I'd say it goes beyond the unseen. I can't see radio waves but I know they exist. I don't have faith in radio waves. Their existence can be proven and measured. However I digress, I know your point.
I did illustrate something about your logic. You consider the debate on the existence of God to be at an equivalent null or standstill. You characterize your belief against my disbelief and then are trying to make them logically equal positions. They aren't. Your belief in the existence of a God isn't logically valid because I have failed to prove he doesn't exist. You've failed to disprove the existence of the 3-legged frog I described, would it be logical for everyone reading this post to believe in that creature? No, of course not. I could sit here all day making up creatures, stories and Gods and you'd dismiss them all without hesitation and you'd be logically right to do so. It just so happens that there is one particular God that you don't dismiss. That illustrates your logic perfectly well.

[PurdueSteve]

And yet again, your position is that you are enlightened and have a firm grasp on things but I don't. That's fine by me, your opinion.

You don't get to hide by the "it's your opinion" argument. You said that your belief IS spiritual truth or something to that effect. You don't declare that your irrational, void of any and all logic beliefs are "truth" while claiming that someone like me just has an opinion.