"I'm not a christian, but it feels good to be in The Chapel", Ed Kowalczyk Options

[livebat]

I've just listen again all my bootlegs of Live and right now I'm listen "I Alone" for the concert in the Chapel, date: 2000-03-13.

Just want to share, again, like everyone, how much I miss Ed... If this thread is repetitive, it's because all we are concerned in different ways... Like I said: It's not religions fault, but in a way the people who didn't know what to believe, finds the wrong answer on them.

Want my +Live+ back!!!

[OutToDry]

Good stuff there man. At least you'll have your old recordings to commemorate those times. See what the future holds.

[gotigrz]

the thing is, is that ed (from everything i've heard or read) IS a Christian, now. and, when and if someone TRULY becomes a Christian... then they become a different person than what they were.

ed's old lyrics were edgy... full of angst... and, uncertainty. that was because he was mad at the world (much like a lot of '90's rock) and he was out looking for answers to "truth". well, if ed's claim of being a Christian is, in fact, honest truth... then he has found what it is that he's been looking for. the reason ed's voice has changed is cause his soul has changed. what was angst... is now joy.

the thing is, is that in live's old stuff... we all loved their stuff cause you could feel ed pouring his heart and soul out in every lyric. and, if you were not a Christian... you could really connect with what ed was saying. that's why, as a Christian and live fan, i had trouble with connecting w/ ed's lyrics. i LOVED live's "sound", but i had difficulty w/ ed's lyrics. but, now... i believe, ed is, once again, pouring his heart and soul out in his lyrics again... they're just lyrics based on a faith in Christ. and, if you're not a believer in Christ... you won't be able to connect with what ed is saying like you use to.

honestly, i don't dig on ed's new sound... it's a lot more "busy" than what i like, but, i can totally connect with what he's saying. if you're a Christian, then you'd happily replace your "want" for your favorite music with your "want" for someone's salvation. so, with that said... i'm very happy for ed.

i get the sense that many of you hope that live will one day get back together and "start over" in a sense... and start rocking out like the old days.... i can promise you that ain't gonna happen. they may get back together,... but, it'll never be the same. ed cannot be a Christian... and, write and sing songs like the songs of old. why do you think he's changed the lyrics in so many of his old songs? it's not cause he's trying to be cheesy and change the lyric to a happy Christian one... it's cause he has a conflict w/in his soul that wont let him sing those lyrics w/ any meaning.... cause he doesn't mean them, anymore.

as you all know, i am a Christian... and, i physically prayed for the salvation of ed's soul around the time that ed pretty much made it well known that he had found Christ. so, i don't claim to be the reason of ed's salvation... but, i do claim that my prayer was answered. and, i can only pray that anyone here that doesn't know Christ will, someday, get to know Him.

peace.

[PurdueSteve]

the thing is, is that ed (from everything i've heard or read) IS a Christian, now. and, when and if someone TRULY becomes a Christian... then they become a different person than what they were.

ed's old lyrics were edgy... full of angst... and, uncertainty. that was because he was mad at the world (much like a lot of '90's rock) and he was out looking for answers to "truth". well, if ed's claim of being a Christian is, in fact, honest truth... then he has found what it is that he's been looking for. the reason ed's voice has changed is cause his soul has changed. what was angst... is now joy.

the thing is, is that in live's old stuff... we all loved their stuff cause you could feel ed pouring his heart and soul out in every lyric. and, if you were not a Christian... you could really connect with what ed was saying. that's why, as a Christian and live fan, i had trouble with connecting w/ ed's lyrics. i LOVED live's "sound", but i had difficulty w/ ed's lyrics. but, now... i believe, ed is, once again, pouring his heart and soul out in his lyrics again... they're just lyrics based on a faith in Christ. and, if you're not a believer in Christ... you won't be able to connect with what ed is saying like you use to.

honestly, i don't dig on ed's new sound... it's a lot more "busy" than what i like, but, i can totally connect with what he's saying. if you're a Christian, then you'd happily replace your "want" for your favorite music with your "want" for someone's salvation. so, with that said... i'm very happy for ed.

i get the sense that many of you hope that live will one day get back together and "start over" in a sense... and start rocking out like the old days.... i can promise you that ain't gonna happen. they may get back together,... but, it'll never be the same. ed cannot be a Christian... and, write and sing songs like the songs of old. why do you think he's changed the lyrics in so many of his old songs? it's not cause he's trying to be cheesy and change the lyric to a happy Christian one... it's cause he has a conflict w/in his soul that wont let him sing those lyrics w/ any meaning.... cause he doesn't mean them, anymore.

as you all know, i am a Christian... and, i physically prayed for the salvation of ed's soul around the time that ed pretty much made it well known that he had found Christ. so, i don't claim to be the reason of ed's salvation... but, i do claim that my prayer was answered. and, i can only pray that anyone here that doesn't know Christ will, someday, get to know Him.

peace.

Except his Christian self is still singing those songs of old. He has updated some lyrics but many he hasn't updated and contradict his salvation in lord baby jebus.

While I'm sure that you're elated that another soul has found itself with your particular flavor of brainwashing, the rest of us here, who have followed this band realize that Ed's M.O. changes with the seasons. He's a Christian now, but next week he'll be a Buddhist and the week after that he'll be back to talking about fucking on a beach with dolphins. He flip flops more than a politician on the campaign trail.

[deepenoughtodive]

Just because someone has a history of something doesn't mean they will continue it. He was on a search for spirtual truth. As a Christian myself, I don't see him changing his beliefs anytime soon because I believe Christianity is spiritual truth. Why would he change to something else after he's found the truth?

Now if his current beliefs aren't genuine.....yes, he may be onto something else soon.

Either way, he is very young in his Christian faith at this point. Forgiveness and reconciliation are essential and he seems uninterested in either regarding his former bandmates. I hope that changes eventually.

Except his Christian self is still singing those songs of old. He has updated some lyrics but many he hasn't updated and contradict his salvation in lord baby jebus.

While I'm sure that you're elated that another soul has found itself with your particular flavor of brainwashing, the rest of us here, who have followed this band realize that Ed's M.O. changes with the seasons. He's a Christian now, but next week he'll be a Buddhist and the week after that he'll be back to talking about fucking on a beach with dolphins. He flip flops more than a politician on the campaign trail.

This post has been edited by deepenoughtodive: Mar 29 2011, 9:33 am