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post Nov 24 2010, 3:22 pm
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What a great day, CT turns 40 & as a special little treat I get the Vinyl masters of our record to approve for production! It sounds AMAZING, get ready for a whole new aural experience!!! Happy Birthday Brother, hope you get everything you have ever dreamed of! KM


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Vinyl Album Release Next Tuesday, Feb. 15!

Finally...the way hard-hitting rock n' roll was meant to be heard! The Gracious Few's album will be released on 12" double gatefold vinyl exclusively at independent record stores next Tuesday, February 15th! Please support TGF and head down to your local indie record store next Tuesday to pick it up or find your local indie record store.


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post Dec 5 2010, 9:16 am
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I was personally told that they are doing a mastering session for the vynil record.

If the record sold 100K consider that a success. I think over time it will be a classic seller!!!!

I don't agree with your synopsis that the record can sound better. They had the best engineers working on it.

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QUOTE(OutToDry @ Dec 5 2010, 9:16 am) *

I was personally told that they are doing a mastering session for the vynil record.

If the record sold 100K consider that a success. I think over time it will be a classic seller!!!!

I don't agree with your synopsis that the record can sound better. They had the best engineers working on it.


Of course the record can sound better. So can the CD, if they remastered it. Here is the wavefom of Crying Time:

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It doesn't look (or sound) that terrible, but look at the compression. The quiet parts are almost as loud as the loud parts. The dynamic range is gone.

A comparison....here is "The Chain" by Fleetwood Mac. Look at the quiet parts and the loud parts...you can see the difference, and you know the loud parts will actually sound loud.


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Another comparison....White, Discussion off of Throwing Copper. I love TC, but sonically, the album is atrocious. White Discussion sounds horrendous. When the "loud" parts kick in, all it is is a compressed mess. On anything other than in your car or on your MP3 player, it sounds like crap.

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I understand the whole addage that you can't judge sound by looking at the waveform, and that's true. Radiohead's In Rainbows LOOKS compressed, but sounds pretty damn good. But by and large, most albums today could sound significantly better if the compression was eliminated.

My point is that when albums get remastered for vinyl, they cannot be that compressed or the needle would literally fly off of the record. So there are two options....keep it compressed and lower the volume, or spend more money to remaster it for vinyl, which is a niche market. You tell me what option you think most bands will choose.

Again, this is not a bash on TGF. I am amazed at how good their album sounds considering all of the compression. It is a bash on how mastering is ruining all my favorite music.


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brianblank   TGF album on vinyl!   Nov 24 2010, 3:22 pm
+Ed+   Fuck yessssssssss!   Nov 24 2010, 3:25 pm
OutToDry   THis is nice to see, they said it was coming!...   Nov 24 2010, 3:40 pm
icewaterike   Awesome!   Nov 24 2010, 6:53 pm
dangum   Kevin Martin IMKM #thegraciousfew vinyl coming in ...   Nov 30 2010, 12:36 am
mattdm11   Vinyl would be nice, but you have to find out wher...   Dec 4 2010, 11:32 am
live2cd   you make a good point, matt -- but i dont know if ...   Dec 4 2010, 11:36 am
mattdm11   you make a good point, matt -- but i dont know if...   Dec 4 2010, 12:47 pm
Nobody Knows   Ye, sadly they are far from selling 100K copies. W...   Dec 5 2010, 9:34 am
Pokey   I think that The Few could have sounded better ......   Dec 5 2010, 9:34 am
thefunkyredcaboose   Yah, I broke down the mix of The Few in my album r...   Dec 5 2010, 10:48 am
OutToDry   All the Mastering was done by the guy at Sterling ...   Dec 5 2010, 10:53 am
thefunkyredcaboose   I think though that the mastering (and thus the wa...   Dec 5 2010, 11:22 pm
+Ed+   I disagree on W,D. In any way it was mastere, it b...   Dec 6 2010, 12:53 am
mattdm11   I disagree on W,D. In any way it was mastere, it ...   Dec 6 2010, 1:55 am
+Ed+   you can disagree all you want, but facts are fact...   Dec 6 2010, 2:56 am
thefunkyredcaboose   How many records have you mastered yourself? I ...   Dec 6 2010, 7:27 am
+Ed+   I have masturbated to thousands of records. Oh, ...   Dec 6 2010, 7:40 am
Pokey   :D I know, I know, my friend. This was a questi...   Dec 6 2010, 8:07 am
+Ed+   I don't really think that is fair, that's...   Dec 6 2010, 8:17 am
Pokey   Did I say anything about the world level? Gimme a...   Dec 6 2010, 8:24 am
mattdm11   I don't really think that is fair, that's...   Dec 6 2010, 10:28 am
thefunkyredcaboose   I disagree on W,D. In any way it was mastere, it ...   Dec 6 2010, 7:20 am
mattdm11   I actually think Ed is spot on here. Distinct ov...   Dec 6 2010, 10:26 am
thefunkyredcaboose   yeah, you're right....and that's why Neve...   Dec 6 2010, 12:14 pm
mattdm11   Thanks for completely not recognizing the sarcasm...   Dec 6 2010, 12:23 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   yeah, because sarcasm really comes through in you...   Dec 6 2010, 12:35 pm
OutToDry   It is true my post wasn't overly obvious, but...   Dec 6 2010, 12:59 pm
mattdm11   I've had several copies, the newer ones sound...   Dec 6 2010, 1:05 pm
mattdm11   It is true my post wasn't overly obvious, but...   Dec 6 2010, 1:11 pm
OutToDry   You must have a newer version CD of TC, the sound...   Dec 6 2010, 11:18 am
mattdm11   You must have a newer version CD of TC, the soun...   Dec 6 2010, 11:36 am
thefunkyredcaboose   I also agree with OTD that my TC album sounds fant...   Dec 6 2010, 12:16 pm
live2cd   anyone who says the loudness wars have not been go...   Dec 6 2010, 12:31 pm
mattdm11   anyone who says the loudness wars have not been g...   Dec 6 2010, 1:04 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Please don't insult my intelligence by asking ...   Dec 6 2010, 4:38 pm
mattdm11   Please don't insult my intelligence by asking...   Dec 6 2010, 11:33 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   It is NOT the only way they can be competitive on...   Dec 7 2010, 7:05 am
Sonic Tonic   To the audiophiles out there that have heard Later...   Dec 7 2010, 12:05 am
thefunkyredcaboose   To the audiophiles out there that have heard Late...   Dec 7 2010, 7:10 am
+Ed+   My only complaint with that album (and most of To...   Dec 7 2010, 7:16 am
thefunkyredcaboose   You've gotta spin their first EP, mate Agre...   Dec 7 2010, 7:21 am
+Ed+   I do get what you mean, I just don't think yo...   Dec 7 2010, 2:49 am
+Ed+   Deserves a separate thread I feel   Dec 7 2010, 8:54 am
thefunkyredcaboose   Deserves a separate thread I feel Done! Ch...   Dec 7 2010, 6:12 pm
Badman   I'm not going to bother reading through to see...   Dec 8 2010, 10:26 am
OutToDry   This is true, been told this personally too.   Dec 9 2010, 10:07 am
dangum   The Vinyl has arrived. http://www.facebook.com/ph...   Jan 7 2011, 10:57 pm
OutToDry   So cool!!!   Jan 8 2011, 12:38 pm
icewaterike   Available for pre-order on Amazon: Good price too...   Jan 16 2011, 11:54 am
rock4adiference   Barnes & Noble sent it in an email http://mus...   Jan 16 2011, 2:43 pm
brianblank   Cool, but I think I'll hold off to see if the ...   Jan 16 2011, 3:49 pm
brianblank   A bit bummed they wont be selling them directly ...   Feb 9 2011, 6:41 pm
OutToDry   Anyone get the vynil album yet?   Feb 16 2011, 7:30 am
sh4rpz   Anyone get the vynil album yet? ordered mine tod...   Feb 16 2011, 10:10 am
IndyYakr   Anyone get the vynil album yet? Mine says Amazo...   Feb 16 2011, 7:55 pm
brianblank   Picked mine up at the local store yesterday, they ...   Feb 16 2011, 12:47 pm
OutToDry   Got mine in one day   Feb 16 2011, 7:57 pm
icewaterike   Mine is backordered from amazon.ca   Feb 17 2011, 7:10 pm
OutToDry   For funky: No inside artwork, white sleeves for t...   Feb 18 2011, 7:17 am
zmanpga   wall art for me!! :kicking:   Feb 18 2011, 7:50 am
IndyYakr   Just got my vinyl today. I should have got 2 disks...   Feb 22 2011, 6:08 pm
mikkel   I wonder when it'll arrive in the Netherlands ...   Apr 2 2011, 8:59 am
icewaterike   I'm still waiting on mine from amazon. Thinki...   Apr 2 2011, 2:39 pm
OutToDry   Amazon, pre ordered it, got it day after the relea...   Apr 2 2011, 8:17 pm
mikkel   I've ordered mine from Barnes & Noble in t...   Apr 3 2011, 1:39 am
icewaterike   Thanks - canceled and went with Barnes and Noble. ...   Apr 3 2011, 11:12 am
apesce1   Just listened to the vinyl album straight through ...   Feb 3 2013, 11:24 pm
Pingfah   I just ordered mine from Amazon, coming from the U...   Mar 1 2013, 7:05 am
dangum   I just ordered mine from Amazon, coming from the ...   Mar 1 2013, 9:24 am
Pingfah   Great price that's for sure. I import my Blu-...   Mar 13 2013, 4:41 am
ThrowgnCpr   for anyone still looking for this, I noticed that ...   Mar 19 2014, 12:13 pm
Merica   Interesting discussion on here related to mixing a...   Nov 21 2016, 9:46 am


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