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post Nov 22 2010, 4:15 pm
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Looks like TGF are going to be having their next set of shows professionally recorded and available for purchase according to facebook:

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Surprise announcement! We are exited to let you know that TGF will be recorded on each stop of the band's upcoming tour leg, starting in Seattle and ending in Ventura , by Abbey Road Live. These are high quality, limited edition double-disc sets. Best of all, if you go to the show, you can pick up your CD set as you leave, encore and all! And if you are not going, you can still have it shipped home to you. Since these are so limited, we are offering these for pre-sale at www.abbeyroadliveus.com. Jump over and your copy today, as it is sure to become a collector's item!


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I still have no doubts my message will remain ignored in this thread.


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post Nov 24 2010, 2:55 pm
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QUOTE(+Ed+ @ Nov 24 2010, 2:13 pm) *

I still have no doubts my message will remain ignored in this thread.



Ok, I will answer it. They are selling the cd through Abbey Road and one needs a credit card in order to purchase a copy of the cd. If you do not have a credit card, maybe you just can't buy one. You aren't entitled to one of these cd's. They are selling them on that website to people who can pay with a credit card. Or erhaps you can give someone with a credit card some cash to buy you one with their credit card.

Intellectual property seems pretty straight forward to me. Companies spend millions of dollars protecting their intellectual property, litigating over infringment and protecting it from being stolen. Chad, Chad and Patrick hired lawyers to sue Ed because he sold performances of Live music without paying them royalties. Chad, Chad, Pat and Ed formed Black Coffee as a company to own the publishing rights to their intellectual property. When a cd is sold, they get paid.

Read this. It is a pretty serious read. If you aren;t concerned with violating the law after you read this, then go ahead at your own risk:

RIAA page

Here are some highlights:

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Copyright law protects the value of creative work
When you make illegal copies of someone’s creative work, you are stealing and breaking the law.


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If you make unauthorized copies of copyrighted music recordings, you’re stealing. You’re breaking the law, and you could be held legally liable for thousands of dollars in damages.

That’s pretty important information to have, considering how serious it would be if you were caught and prosecuted by the authorities or sued in civil court. It’s even more important that you understand that when you illicitly make or distribute recordings, you are taking something of value from the owner without his or her permission.


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Examples of easy ways you could violate the law:

Somebody you don’t even know e-mails you a copy of a copyrighted song and then you turn around and e-mail copies to all of your friends.

You make an MP3 copy of a song because the CD you bought expressly permits you to do so. But then you put your MP3 copy on the Internet, using a file-sharing network, so that millions of other people can download it.

Even if you don’t illegally offer recordings to others, you join a file-sharing network and download unauthorized copies of all the copyrighted music you want for free from the computers of other network members.

In order to gain access to copyrighted music on the computers of other network members, you pay a fee to join a file-sharing network that isn’t authorized to distribute or make copies of copyrighted music. Then you download unauthorized copies of all the music you want.
You transfer copyrighted music using an instant messenging service.

You have a computer with a CD burner, which you use to burn copies of music you have downloaded onto writable CDs for all of your friends.



On the subject of intellectual property, we wouldn't have any of the innovations like the iPhone, or the software that plays music or videos, or Blue Ray players, or statin drugs or contact lens solutions if there wasn't intellectual property. People invent these things, patent and copyright them and then license them or use them for a profit. If someone invents a technology and then anyone else can just take it and use it, no one would have an incentive to invent these new technologies.


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Pokey   Upcoming shows professionally recorded!   Nov 22 2010, 4:15 pm
OutToDry   OK, i asked Abbey Road live to elaborate on their ...   Nov 22 2010, 4:16 pm
OutToDry   Here is the direct link to the TGF order page: ht...   Nov 22 2010, 4:18 pm
live2cd   Wow! This is awesome news!!! I wo...   Nov 22 2010, 4:20 pm
brianblank   I wonder if the band is still cool w/ open audien...   Nov 22 2010, 6:54 pm
Pokey   Problem is so many shows and so little money (and ...   Nov 22 2010, 4:20 pm
FishOutaWater   Oh Hell Yeah! P.S. I probably won't buy a...   Nov 22 2010, 4:31 pm
Hoodstock   Problem is so many shows and so little money (and...   Nov 22 2010, 6:18 pm
live2cd   It depends on how this company is mixing the show ...   Nov 22 2010, 4:42 pm
Pokey   It depends on how this company is mixing the show...   Nov 22 2010, 4:44 pm
Pokey   haha I asked them on facebook to look into their c...   Nov 22 2010, 4:43 pm
FishOutaWater   haha I asked them on facebook to look into their ...   Nov 22 2010, 4:49 pm
OutToDry   I am sure the Washington state shows will be very ...   Nov 22 2010, 4:48 pm
tst4eko   I went with the Seattle show. With CB being from ...   Nov 22 2010, 5:48 pm
Infrequent Poster   I went with the Seattle show. With CB being from...   Nov 22 2010, 6:05 pm
Pokey   ah guys maybe we can all buy a different show each...   Nov 22 2010, 6:20 pm
Hoodstock   ah guys maybe we can all buy a different show eac...   Nov 22 2010, 6:28 pm
Pokey   Of course - why would I buy the same show as you?...   Nov 22 2010, 6:47 pm
tst4eko   Well when 2 others said they were getting the sam...   Nov 22 2010, 7:10 pm
dangum   Just to make something clear, links to these profe...   Nov 22 2010, 7:15 pm
mattdm11   Just to make something clear, links to these prof...   Nov 22 2010, 8:02 pm
Pokey   to think that these people who "love" t...   Nov 22 2010, 8:05 pm
mattdm11   I don't think you understood the concept, peo...   Nov 22 2010, 8:12 pm
Pokey   And you don't think they would end up in the ...   Nov 22 2010, 8:23 pm
mattdm11   It's not being organised here anymore, and no...   Nov 22 2010, 8:26 pm
Pokey   I'm "settled down", champ. Don...   Nov 22 2010, 8:28 pm
live2cd   ah guys maybe we can all buy a different show eac...   Nov 22 2010, 6:47 pm
Hoodstock   I checked, it's $5. I wonder why they do...   Nov 22 2010, 6:35 pm
Heather   Awesome! I remember Collective Soul did this a...   Nov 22 2010, 6:38 pm
Pokey   Absolutely Dan, you can count on me 100% not posti...   Nov 22 2010, 7:28 pm
jayda   I wish they offered downloads. Too much of a pita...   Nov 22 2010, 7:57 pm
live2cd   Yeah Im definitely in for one show, but Im not buy...   Nov 22 2010, 8:17 pm
+Ed+   All I can say is that it is a grand idea and if I ...   Nov 23 2010, 12:52 am
zmanpga   what happened to a VID they made at the TLA and sa...   Nov 23 2010, 6:46 am
+Ed+   It'll become the official Appetite sooner or l...   Nov 23 2010, 7:06 am
FishOutaWater   I don't want to make enemies here, but I think...   Nov 23 2010, 9:45 am
Pokey   I don't want to make enemies here, but I thin...   Nov 23 2010, 11:46 am
FishOutaWater   I respectfully disagree. I do want to pay for the...   Nov 23 2010, 1:18 pm
FishOutaWater   Yikes, I must have made people mad. This thread j...   Nov 23 2010, 3:36 pm
Pokey   No offense, but do you realize how ridiculous thi...   Nov 23 2010, 6:37 pm
FishOutaWater   Sorry dude I didn't read all that after you s...   Nov 23 2010, 7:55 pm
PurdueSteve   No offense, but do you realize how ridiculous thi...   Nov 24 2010, 12:59 pm
Bremang   No offense, but do you realize how ridiculous ...   Nov 24 2010, 3:54 pm
SctSamadhi   I don't want to make enemies here, but I thin...   Nov 23 2010, 12:04 pm
OutToDry   I support you Fish. This whole project is on thei...   Nov 23 2010, 11:48 am
Pokey   I support you Fish. This whole project is on the...   Nov 23 2010, 12:00 pm
zmanpga   Ill pay..no freebies..SUPPORT THE BAND!   Nov 23 2010, 12:20 pm
+Ed+   ok kids, what do you tell ME to do? I CAN NOT pay....   Nov 23 2010, 12:34 pm
live2cd   you guys are getting extremely worked up over this...   Nov 23 2010, 4:49 pm
jayda   I'm not getting into the whole stealing music ...   Nov 24 2010, 7:46 am
Pokey   I don't really think it's that pricey for ...   Nov 24 2010, 8:43 am
live2cd   my order for San Diego was $26 something with...   Nov 24 2010, 12:21 pm
OutToDry   I still have 12 TGF CD's that need gifting...   Nov 24 2010, 1:39 pm
PurdueSteve   Here are some highlights: On the subject of int...   Nov 24 2010, 3:17 pm
+Ed+   Sorry, Fish. I do not have a credit card, I do not...   Nov 24 2010, 3:19 pm
PurdueSteve   Sorry, Fish. I do not have a credit card, I do no...   Nov 24 2010, 3:44 pm
FishOutaWater   Fish, out of curiosity, is the "law" t...   Nov 24 2010, 5:01 pm
Aitkens   Shit every time I go to an Eagles or Phillies game...   Nov 24 2010, 5:17 pm
LiveRoCkS77   Shit every time I go to an Eagles or Phillies gam...   Nov 24 2010, 10:12 pm
Aitkens   Way to go Nick! You're sad, on so many...   Nov 24 2010, 11:45 pm
+Ed+   I am sorry to say, but I called 20 radio stations...   Nov 25 2010, 1:25 am
FishOutaWater   I am sorry to say, but I called 20 radio station...   Nov 25 2010, 7:11 am
Wambangalang   woah guys there must be something in the water her...   Nov 25 2010, 3:08 am
Pokey   Dimi can't you get one of those visa debit thi...   Nov 25 2010, 4:31 am
+Ed+   E, as I told you, I also do not have a bank accoun...   Nov 25 2010, 4:32 am
rock4adiference   E, as I told you, I also do not have a bank accou...   Nov 25 2010, 9:09 am
Pokey   Oh .. not even a normal bank account? where do you...   Nov 25 2010, 5:15 am
+Ed+   I am not. I am a cupboard-shelve one :D   Nov 25 2010, 5:32 am
+Ed+   This was not aimed at you, Fishy, in any way. I do...   Nov 25 2010, 7:19 am
Pokey   I want to hear that rant by Dimi read out in an an...   Nov 25 2010, 7:24 am
+Ed+   http://catherine333.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/an...   Nov 25 2010, 8:06 am
Pokey   Or just a picture of a big bear   Nov 25 2010, 8:15 am
OutToDry   Speaking of bears......this one might be a world r...   Nov 25 2010, 8:38 am
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