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post Apr 24 2006, 9:29 pm
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I'm going to make a bold prediction and I'm sorry if people don't agree but give your thoughts anyway.
After listening to SFBM a few times (loving it) I couldn't help but to compare it to DOAD and MJ.
So then I started to think that Live are actually starting all over again, meaning perhaps there next album is going to be- no not TC 2- but back to the solid guitars and good old fashioned rock,
we heard this in BOP so it's definately there.- Thoughts?
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post May 7 2006, 7:51 am
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I have to confess that I don't think MJ is that great. I find it dog rough and naive sounding. It's the sound of a young band trying to emulate REM and ending up sounding too much like them, but showing the potential that bore fruit on the next album. Not saying that there aren't some good songs on there because there are, but I find it excruciating to listen to from start to finish. The weird thing is I know I'd have loved this album if I'd heard it before TC, but the genie was already out of the bottle by then.

I do find SFBM easier to listen to, but I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing. There are some cringeworthy moments and I do tend to stick it on while I'm doing the housework and my mind is not fully concentrating on the music. I do like it, but I doubt it's going to have legs for me.


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QUOTE(Senghe @ May 7 2006, 8:51 am) *

I have to confess that I don't think MJ is that great. I find it dog rough and naive sounding. It's the sound of a young band trying to emulate REM and ending up sounding too much like them, but showing the potential that bore fruit on the next album. Not saying that there aren't some good songs on there because there are, but I find it excruciating to listen to from start to finish. The weird thing is I know I'd have loved this album if I'd heard it before TC, but the genie was already out of the bottle by then.

I do find SFBM easier to listen to, but I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing. There are some cringeworthy moments and I do tend to stick it on while I'm doing the housework and my mind is not fully concentrating on the music. I do like it, but I doubt it's going to have legs for me.


Again, I have to have a good laugh at that. I've listened to Mj a million times and can't see any resemblence to anything REM has ever made. I can't see how they're trying to emulate REM whatsoever. The drumming is so far different it's not even comparable and the structure of the music is nowhere near the same. I'd like to see you name your reasons for saying this. Because I hear the songs on an individual basis and can't see ANY similarities other then the theme of some of the lyrics.

And what's wrong with that? I wonder why people even bring that up. Music has been like that for a long time. The greatest band ever like The Beatles, Led Zeppelinn, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd..etc, all wrote lyrics that were similar in theme to other bands material. That only means that no matter what you write about, you are inevitably going to be writing something similar in theme to what somebody else has already sung about.

So I find the REM and U2 comparison really fucking dumb, sorry. I mean, musically, REM, LIVE and U2 all have vastly different styles and sounds and that pretty much fact. The vocal styles, the music......everything but the similar lyrical theme.

As for V being better then SFBM? Well, my opinion is that all of Celine Dion's disks are better then V. That cd is a fucking frisbee for me and about the worst music I've ever heard. Mcpheezy already went there about how utterly horrible it is lyrically so I won't even go there. And with the keyboards, horrible rap and RAILO, I won't even argue the point of how sickening that cd actually is.


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Leigh   Bold Prediction   Apr 24 2006, 9:29 pm
torcatoism   ...solid guitars and good old fashioned rock... ...   Apr 24 2006, 10:30 pm
Leigh   I definitely don't agree with that part. The ...   Apr 24 2006, 11:11 pm
torcatoism   You need to read it carefully dude, I was talking...   Apr 25 2006, 6:41 am
Leigh   Ok yeah I read that wrong, but I still stick to w...   Apr 25 2006, 10:41 pm
torcatoism   I'm only saying that because they are trying ...   Apr 26 2006, 12:30 am
Leigh   Yeah, I know you are. I wish I could be optimisti...   Apr 26 2006, 6:17 am
Costakoui   Ok yeah I read that wrong, but I still stick to w...   Apr 26 2006, 6:52 am
torcatoism   Please speak for yourself, do not generalize and ...   Apr 26 2006, 7:17 am
Costakoui   What? I wasn't speaking for anyone else. I th...   Apr 26 2006, 11:22 am
Pokey   Solid guitars in BOP were nothing like TC .. it ha...   Apr 24 2006, 10:37 pm
seriakiLLa   Like I said before, SFBM gives me hope for a bette...   Apr 24 2006, 10:53 pm
jonesy   I'm looking at the similarities here from MJ t...   Apr 24 2006, 10:55 pm
DesertWater   I'm looking at the similarities here from MJ ...   Apr 24 2006, 11:04 pm
jonesy   I disagree. Mental Jewelry has more art and crea...   Apr 25 2006, 12:20 am
J.Sax   I was talking about the actual cd disk,there both ...   Apr 25 2006, 12:41 am
seriakiLLa   I was talking about the actual cd disk,there both...   Apr 25 2006, 12:56 am
DesertWater   I was talking about the actual cd disk,there both...   Apr 25 2006, 7:09 pm
seriakiLLa   However they are both my least favourite,and they...   Apr 24 2006, 11:52 pm
SecretInsomnia   I'm looking at the similarities here from MJ ...   Apr 25 2006, 6:48 am
Wambangalang   i got a silve mj disk too without art. Only the SF...   Apr 25 2006, 12:53 am
Wambangalang   and btw i doubt Live are doing the whole "let...   Apr 25 2006, 12:57 am
jonesy   Ah well neither of mine have art,and this is the s...   Apr 25 2006, 12:59 am
seriakiLLa   I got J.Sax's version as well.   Apr 25 2006, 1:01 am
LiveattheOasis   From Ed's statements I'm sure he hasn...   Apr 25 2006, 1:42 am
Pokey   I wonder how you can believe in all religions .. s...   Apr 25 2006, 1:46 am
Gertjan   That is what I understand, this is from a recent i...   Apr 25 2006, 2:06 am
Beardan   To me the reason Live are a long way from MJ is Ed...   Apr 25 2006, 4:52 am
Soxwsc   If they're having this much trouble releasing ...   Apr 25 2006, 9:30 am
Jackaz   Nope... sorry - this is as good as we'll be ge...   Apr 25 2006, 10:14 am
sherocker   no one can predict the future, now can they? (unle...   Apr 25 2006, 11:49 am
SecretInsomnia   Ed said at the beginning of 2006 (so after SFBM wa...   Apr 25 2006, 1:52 pm
sherocker   Ed said at the beginning of 2006 (so after SFBM w...   Apr 26 2006, 11:56 am
jaybb   They never would have signed a contract for only o...   Apr 25 2006, 7:10 pm
SJN1279   They never would have signed a contract for only ...   Apr 25 2006, 7:58 pm
NectarDan   They never would have signed a contract for only ...   Apr 25 2006, 11:34 pm
jaybb   They apparently did though. :nod: Says who?   Apr 26 2006, 12:24 am
SecretInsomnia   I understand your opinion when you check the music...   Apr 26 2006, 12:10 pm
sherocker   y'know, if Dre will ever produce them or whate...   Apr 26 2006, 12:15 pm
space banjo   I have a bad, bad feeling that this could be their...   Apr 27 2006, 1:35 pm
sherocker   I have a bad, bad feeling that this could be thei...   Apr 28 2006, 12:30 pm
space banjo   what are u? an idiot? :eh: @ mfitz804: thank u...   Apr 28 2006, 12:51 pm
serene23   No.. just someone who has an opinion, is that a p...   Apr 28 2006, 2:10 pm
Lively Chick   I don't think it will be their last. I know t...   Apr 29 2006, 9:08 pm
serene23   What's wrong with him saying "momma...   May 4 2006, 1:29 pm
Lively Chick   Pardon me? Listen, I actually really like the ne...   May 4 2006, 11:26 pm
mfitz804   sherocker: no probs, I have never seen so many peo...   Apr 28 2006, 2:51 pm
sherocker   No.. just someone who has an opinion, is that a p...   Apr 29 2006, 10:59 am
space banjo   No problem for me at all, i just gave u my opinio...   May 2 2006, 12:34 pm
sherocker   No you didnt. You just called me an idiot. so su...   May 3 2006, 12:19 pm
space banjo   so sue me! Youre a charmer arent you. How ...   May 4 2006, 11:34 am
sherocker   Youre a charmer arent you. How old are you really...   May 4 2006, 12:15 pm
mfitz804   I have a prediction: people will have to get the f...   Apr 28 2006, 7:48 am
SecretInsomnia   after all, everybody is good enough for some chang...   Apr 28 2006, 2:54 pm
mfitz804   after all, everybody is good enough for some chan...   Apr 28 2006, 7:46 pm
tswart1   after all, everybody is good enough for some chan...   Apr 29 2006, 9:44 pm
Senghe   ^ Genius! :D   Apr 28 2006, 6:08 pm
jonesy   All this talk about people not being open minded a...   Apr 28 2006, 9:11 pm
Leigh   All this talk about people not being open minded ...   Apr 29 2006, 8:55 pm
mfitz804   I didn't say they had to accept change, I said...   Apr 29 2006, 8:22 am
LiveRoCkS77   Well, I have to say that I honestly can't beli...   May 4 2006, 9:05 am
SJN1279   Well, I have to say that I honestly can't bel...   May 4 2006, 9:41 am
LiveRoCkS77   I think SFBM blows Mental Jewelery away. As I sa...   May 5 2006, 12:30 am
Pokey   You seem like a little kid when he gets a new toy...   May 5 2006, 12:55 am
Costakoui   Nick, boy oh boy oh boy. SFBM is nowhere near MJ,...   May 7 2006, 10:23 am
beau99   The lyrics alone off MJ BLOW SFBM off the fucking...   May 7 2006, 1:56 pm
space banjo   I'm afraid to say that V is a far far beter al...   May 7 2006, 6:46 am
seriakiLLa   If I had to pick which Live album is REM-ish, with...   May 7 2006, 9:38 am
seriakiLLa   Just goes to show how people differ in opinions. ...   May 7 2006, 11:21 am
Heather   Just goes to show how people differ in opinions. ...   May 7 2006, 12:07 pm
seriakiLLa   I think that cd would be a disaster if it was rec...   May 7 2006, 12:17 pm
Costakoui   Uhm.. imagine PLOTR opening with ladadada? Scary...   May 7 2006, 3:06 pm
tswart1   Ed has some googley eyes.   May 7 2006, 11:36 am
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