Would you like to see an open taping policy? Options

[dangum]

As most of the regular posters on this board are aware, I'm a big supporter of recordings of independent origin (ROIOs).

I believe that tapers (video and audio) perform the valuable task of documenting events that would otherwise be lost. Fans who cannot make the concert will be able to experience the performance and people who attend can relive the show.

I've seen my fair share of taping policies and in my opinion Candlebox's is one of the best. Here is an extract:

Audience taping is permitted at all shows, whether audio or video. Candlebox believes that the taping and proliferation of such live recordings promotes fan interaction and is an invaluable grassroots marketing tool.

There are, however, a few simple guidelines that the band insists be followed. With responsible recording, use, and distribution, fans will continue to enjoy the privilege of taping Candlebox live performances. These guidelines are as follows:

* When Candlebox opens for a band or plays in a venue that does not allow taping, the taping policy of the headlining band or venue supersedes Candlebox's policy for that evening.
* No recording gear or electricity will be supplied; be sure you have all the necessary equipment. Soundboard feeds will not be provided.
* Please be polite while taping by keeping in mind the crew and concert-goers around you. A fan's show experience should never be disrupted by microphones or stands.

All taping must be for personal and non-commercial use only. No profit is ever to be made from live Candlebox recordings! You are permitted to trade shows with other fans for an equal amount of media. 2-for-1 trading is considered profiteering and will not be tolerated.

In the interests of making any such recordings as openly accessible as possible to all fans who may be interested, Candlebox requests that all tapers upload their recordings to the Live Music Archive: http://www.archive.org/details/etree.

The full policy can be read here: http://www.candleboxrocks.com/tour-officia...ping-policy.php

[live2cd]

Ha, that was me on facebook...

If no policy is posted, I will just show up early to the venue (Cincy will be my first show) and hope one of the guys will be around to let the venue security know its ok. Sometimes, they will just let you walk in, set up, record and leave. Different clubs police different things.

Columbus @The Newport will be different. Ive had problems w/ them before.

[dangum]

I recently upgraded to one of these: Tascam DR-2d.

Coupled with Sound Professionals Premium Cardioids and a battery box should yield decent results. Though, if video is cool with the band I'd much rather do that



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Edit: Another post by CG (love his plexiglass comment!)

[thatsme]

I recently upgraded to one of these: Tascam DR-2d.

Coupled with Sound Professionals Premium Cardioids and a battery box should yield decent results. Though, if video is cool with the band I'd much rather do that

Make sure the mics can handle high SPLs.
I taped several shows using a pair of MM-HLSC-1 (Highline Sehnheiser driven stereo cardioid microphones) : http://microphonemadness.com/products/mmhigsencars.htm and a SoundPro battery-box.

The mics are said to handle 138dB SPL without a battery module... but really, that's a lie.
They were good for moderately loud rock shows like David Gray (in a club), but I got slightly to heavy distorted results with Theory of a Deadman (in a club), Skunk Anansie (same club as David Gray) and Nickelback (in a sports hall). And I can assure you the recording levels were set correctly as they never reached the 0dB peak !!

To get rid of that problem, I got my mics modified (4.7k mod - SoundPro can do that on demand, so don't hesitate !!) and I bought a small preamp (Church Audio CA-9100).

Still haven't had the opportunity to test my new rig yet, but will in a couple of days with Lifehouse (which will only be a moderately loud concert I guess).

I taped Live in Munich back in 2006 using SP-BMC-12 and a SP battery-box.
Got slightly distorted bass and bass drums.
Max SPL for the SP-BMC-12 is 125dB when powered with a battery-box. Compare this with the premium cardioid mic you want.

Remember Kevin said "It's never loud enough"
I can tell you The Gracious Few will play with levels over 125dB, even in small clubs.

I also heard them say in an interview that they will do a bunch of acoustic songs in the middle of their gig. That means you'll have to change your level settings while recording.

For many many more instructive posts, you can go here : http://taperssection.com/.

[dangum]

Make sure the mics can handle high SPLs.

I've had the mics and battery box for over 10 years and recorded a few rock shows (inc. Live / Tool / Foo Fighters) and haven't experienced any distortion. This was via: mics --> battery box --> line in --> Sharp 722 MiniDisc.

Without a battery box (mics --> mic in --> Sharp 722) I do get distortion.

With the Tascam DR-2d, I've only had it for a week so I haven't recorded any proper shows but I have recorded in a small room with 2 electric guitars, drums and bass at a earsplitting volume and so far the results have been pleasing. In fact going through Line In (and using the battery box) still doesn't peak the levels. Weird...

For many many more instructive posts, you can go here : http://taperssection.com/.

Great site. I've learned a lot from there.