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post Sep 14 2010, 11:41 am
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Got this in my email today:

IN OFFICIAL LIVE MUSIC NEWS:

Chad, Chad and Patrick have dug into the archives and found the "Church Box" demos from the Secret Samadhi era. The demos will include two UNRELEASED (to the general public) tracks. This will be offered with a package of other goodies exclusively at www.friendsoflive.com closer to the holidays.

Thanks listening and for your continued support.

The boys from LIVE!


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post Sep 14 2010, 8:14 pm
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Wow! Can't wait for Churchbox! That is cool that CCP own the Live trademark. I wonder if they have the ability to release all of their material, including studio tracks. Chad Gracey with the head on response! That some strong words from the CCP camp. Gotta assume he means up until V was recorded.


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post Sep 14 2010, 8:27 pm
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Sep 14 2010, 9:14 pm) *

Wow! Can't wait for Churchbox! That is cool that CCP own the Live trademark. I wonder if they have the ability to release all of their material, including studio tracks. Chad Gracey with the head on response! That some strong words from the CCP camp. Gotta assume he means up until V was recorded.


I assumed the real divide over songwriting came after V, since CT wrote of how V wasn't supposed to be released as a retail album anyway.


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post Sep 14 2010, 10:23 pm
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QUOTE(thefunkyredcaboose @ Sep 14 2010, 9:27 pm) *

I assumed the real divide over songwriting came after V, since CT wrote of how V wasn't supposed to be released as a retail album anyway.


I missed this. Is the text of the post still around? I'm very curious about this!


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post Sep 14 2010, 10:24 pm
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I wonder what OTHER cool stuff we've been missing out on?

And I have to say, why wouldn't a band want to reward their biggest fans with "cool stuff" like this? I mean, why leave it in a vault somewhere if you could make your biggest fans happy?

I'm not saying any particular member of the band was responsible for this stuff being locked up, I just mean in general, why would a band sit on something that their fans would love? Any ideas?


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post Sep 14 2010, 10:32 pm
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QUOTE(LiveFan92 @ Sep 15 2010, 12:24 pm) *

I'm not saying any particular member of the band was responsible for this stuff being locked up, I just mean in general, why would a band sit on something that their fans would love? Any ideas?

Here are some possible reasons:
1. Waiting for an opportunity to make money from them
2. Unhappy with the quality of the material
3. Don't want to dwell on the past
4. Contractual obligations (the record label owns the material and the band are unable to release it)
5. Waiting for a special occasion (20th anniversary)
6. There's not enough demand
7. Too costly to produce


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post Sep 18 2010, 6:29 am
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QUOTE(dangum @ Sep 14 2010, 10:32 pm) *

Here are some possible reasons:
1. Waiting for an opportunity to make money from them
2. Unhappy with the quality of the material
3. Don't want to dwell on the past
4. Contractual obligations (the record label owns the material and the band are unable to release it)
5. Waiting for a special occasion (20th anniversary)
6. There's not enough demand
7. Too costly to produce


I wonder which of those 7 points was the reason for not releasing Hold me Up sarcasm.gif


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post Sep 18 2010, 1:28 pm
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QUOTE(SecretInsomnia @ Sep 18 2010, 6:29 am) *


I wonder which of those 7 points was the reason for not releasing Hold me Up sarcasm.gif






Ed has mentioned fairly recently in an interview that he likes Hold me Up as being unreleased. I forget his exact words, but he said he liked how the song has developed its own mystique, for lack of better term, as an unreleased gem.

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QUOTE(Bremang @ Sep 18 2010, 2:28 pm) *

Ed has mentioned fairly recently in an interview that he likes Hold me Up as being unreleased. I forget his exact words, but he said he liked how the song has developed its own mystique, for lack of better term, as an unreleased gem.

If true (I said if) then Ed is a bigger asshole than I even thought he was.


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FishOutaWater   Live Members to Release Rarities!   Sep 14 2010, 11:41 am
thatsme   the two unreleased tracks are photograph and mallr...   Sep 14 2010, 11:45 am
thefunkyredcaboose   the two unreleased tracks are photograph and mall...   Sep 14 2010, 11:47 am
thatsme   CT stated there would be new releases around the ...   Sep 14 2010, 12:57 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Maybe the studio version of Cheetah also comes fr...   Sep 14 2010, 1:57 pm
OutToDry   Fantastic News!!!!   Sep 14 2010, 11:52 am
alphaq   I'll bet these are Photograph and Mallrat. The...   Sep 14 2010, 12:20 pm
FishOutaWater   Photograph and Mallrat. Not Photograph and Mallra...   Sep 14 2010, 12:26 pm
aLIVEinNORWAY   Can't wait..can't wait... :D :banana: :h...   Sep 14 2010, 12:29 pm
Existentialist   FUCK YEAH! Thank god that talentless loser sto...   Sep 14 2010, 12:34 pm
SJN1279   our getting all these gifts we've so long dre...   Sep 14 2010, 12:56 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   :rolleyes: That this is your only post on one o...   Sep 14 2010, 1:56 pm
PurdueSteve   That this is your only post on one of these threa...   Sep 14 2010, 2:14 pm
Existentialist   :rolleyes: What now?   Sep 14 2010, 4:29 pm
Merica   Seriously can't wait for these.   Sep 14 2010, 1:14 pm
BERLINONE   Got this in my email today: IN OFFICIAL LIVE MUS...   Sep 14 2010, 2:20 pm
OutToDry   This and TGF cd are wonderful things for a LIVE fa...   Sep 14 2010, 2:26 pm
OutToDry   This was also said on the LIVE FB page below what ...   Sep 14 2010, 3:41 pm
Gertjan   PS Chad, Patrick and I control the name and trade...   Sep 15 2010, 2:30 am
Wambangalang   Period!   Sep 14 2010, 4:29 pm
Bremang   I assumed the real divide over songwriting came...   Sep 14 2010, 8:49 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   but in his blog years ago Chad mentioned how he w...   Sep 14 2010, 8:52 pm
LivesMeltdown   I wonder which of those 7 points was the reason f...   Sep 18 2010, 6:31 am
SecretInsomnia   I still can't believe Hold Me Up was not on t...   Sep 18 2010, 6:44 am
thefunkyredcaboose   Ed has mentioned fairly recently in an interview ...   Sep 18 2010, 2:18 pm
OutToDry   I think we'll get a lot of things like the CT ...   Sep 14 2010, 8:18 pm
Bremang   what piques my curiousity is how Chad thinks at le...   Sep 14 2010, 8:22 pm
OutToDry   i have a feeling it will!!   Sep 14 2010, 8:24 pm
Hoodstock   I got this email at work today. I know Chad said ...   Sep 14 2010, 8:41 pm
dangum   I haven't received the email either (I've ...   Sep 14 2010, 8:50 pm
Bremang   I haven't received the email either (I've...   Sep 14 2010, 9:01 pm
OutToDry   That's when the old Live sold out to market fo...   Sep 14 2010, 8:51 pm
Bremang   That's when the old Live sold out to market f...   Sep 14 2010, 8:57 pm
Benjamin Bachmann   Well I can't prove otherwise but I know that ...   Sep 15 2010, 7:45 am
OutToDry   A new double cd jewel box with SS Logo and red Chu...   Sep 14 2010, 9:29 pm
aLIVEinNORWAY   A new double cd jewel box with SS Logo and red Ch...   Sep 20 2010, 2:14 pm
Costakoui   But who is going to get it? Those who pay the year...   Sep 15 2010, 12:02 am
Bremang   But who is going to get it? Those who pay the y...   Sep 15 2010, 7:23 am
michael39   Awesome news....can't wait to hear this music....   Sep 15 2010, 12:41 am
+Ed+   His fingers are crossed for an alternative versio...   Sep 15 2010, 2:19 am
+Ed+   CG has been angry for around 15 years I bet.   Sep 15 2010, 2:37 am
Bremang   CG has been angry for around 15 years I bet. ...   Sep 15 2010, 7:24 am
thefunkyredcaboose   Given the nature of the material I don't know ...   Sep 15 2010, 7:26 am
jaybb   Given the nature of the material I don't know...   Sep 18 2010, 5:01 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Since these were only artist demos and not part o...   Sep 18 2010, 5:17 pm
+Ed+   I think it will be released via Homespun.   Sep 15 2010, 7:31 am
Nobody Knows   Chad, Patrick and I control the name and trademar...   Sep 15 2010, 9:34 am
thefunkyredcaboose   If they control the name, how come Ed puts on jus...   Sep 15 2010, 3:46 pm
Bremang   .   Sep 15 2010, 9:42 pm
LiveFan92   Hey, I just love the idea of "new" Live ...   Sep 16 2010, 11:11 am
Hoodstock   It will be free - otherwise Ed will be taking them...   Sep 15 2010, 3:36 pm
Bremang   I'd say its a pretty common notion   Sep 18 2010, 2:21 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I'd say its a pretty common notion Explain,...   Sep 18 2010, 3:35 pm
Bremang   Explain, please. It is a common notion...   Sep 18 2010, 7:16 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   It is a common notion because musicians can be pa...   Sep 18 2010, 8:48 pm
Bremang   Who knows, maybe if he released it for Z and M he ...   Sep 18 2010, 9:50 pm
Bremang   Here it is. In retrospect I think this is an inter...   Sep 19 2010, 7:31 pm
SecretInsomnia   Here it is. In retrospect I think this is an inte...   Sep 20 2010, 1:30 pm
Existentialist   I know you weren't serious about the Live reun...   Sep 20 2010, 1:48 pm
IndyYakr   I know you weren't serious about the Live reu...   Sep 20 2010, 8:36 pm
OutToDry   I agree with you on this Ex. I believe Live is ...   Sep 20 2010, 8:38 pm
crazy1   I agree with you on this Ex. I believe Live is do...   Sep 21 2010, 8:37 am
Hoodstock   Oops - *Post Deleted*   Sep 20 2010, 8:37 pm
Sakhmet2   I know you weren't serious about the Live reu...   Sep 21 2010, 8:32 am
OutToDry   Not so. Van Halen, for ex. there were no r...   Sep 21 2010, 8:53 am
SJN1279   there were no real musical creative differences o...   Sep 21 2010, 1:25 pm
OutToDry   I followed Van Halen's whole career, while you...   Sep 21 2010, 1:59 pm
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