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SinfulEyes
post Sep 9 2010, 11:46 am
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I was giving V a spin last night and it really struck me how bad Ed is a sell-out and a hypocrite.

His new music SCREAMS from the top of the lungs of mainstream and pop yet in People Like You, he claims he is "pissing in the mainstream (of music)"

And people around here wonder why most Live fans "diehards" have jumped the Ed ship. I've gotta say that the ones who still support him and consume his music and coffee paraphernalia are definitely hypocrites themselves.

How do you feel about this?


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QUOTE(SinfulEyes @ Sep 9 2010, 12:46 pm) *

I've gotta say that the ones who still support him and consume his music and coffee paraphernalia are definitely hypocrites themselves.


I agree with your post and your main point, but this jumps out at me.

I disagree with this, I consume all sorts of media, that in message goes against how I may feel on a subject.

Politically, I fit in the libertarian camp (although I hate labels) and that by definition makes me disagree with the victim welfare-entitlement mentality of the poor culture in our country, yet, regardless, I still listen to some old and some new hip-hop! Does that make me a hypocrite for doing so, I don't think so.

I haven't bought into the whole global warming politically-charged science, yet I still watched and enjoyed the movie Avatar (although it in premise was a rip off of other stories). Does that make me a hypocrite because of it's Pro-green message.

Ed has changed and has taken actions that contradict some of his earlier claims in life. That doesn't necessarily make him a hypocrite, because to be a hypocrite is to say one thing WHILE doing another. So being anti-christian (or anti-organized religion) back in 1992 while turning to a christian in 2010 wouldn't make someone a hypocrite, rather just a person that changed their views.

Now, Ed IS a hypocrite for some of the things Fish pointed out.

Regardless, I don't think anyone listening to Ed's work today is a hypocrite. I think Alive sucks as a piece of work coming from Ed Kowalczyk who I know can do better, setting that aside it's not 100% garbage if you don't mind some pop-rock. I personally like Zion, Soul Whispers (horrible title) and Eat your love. I don't think that makes me a hypocrite, I take it for it is. I'd rather have the 1995 to 1997 Ed again, but since that ain't whats happening I, objectively, have to accept what is reality.


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SinfulEyes   Ed is a Hypocrite.   Sep 9 2010, 11:46 am
FishOutaWater   I was giving V a spin last night and it really st...   Sep 9 2010, 12:11 pm
SinfulEyes   He was selling out on V too. At the time, the p...   Sep 9 2010, 1:50 pm
+Ed+   Well, Cornell already rnb-ed. So there is hardly ...   Sep 9 2010, 12:13 pm
livefan1999   I've gotta say that the ones who still suppor...   Sep 9 2010, 2:01 pm
SinfulEyes   I wouldn't consider myself a Live "dieha...   Sep 9 2010, 2:07 pm
Chelsea   I am not a fan of "Alive" but I also don...   Sep 9 2010, 2:22 pm
SinfulEyes   I agree with your post and your main point, but t...   Sep 9 2010, 5:22 pm
OutToDry   I used to think Ed was all that, his command over ...   Sep 9 2010, 7:00 pm
Bremang   I think it is more that Eds songs just aren't ...   Sep 9 2010, 7:23 pm
OutToDry   The last record was an Ed solo record, shouldnt ha...   Sep 9 2010, 7:29 pm
Bremang   The last record was an Ed solo record, shouldnt h...   Sep 9 2010, 8:11 pm
Chelsea   I actually think "SFBM" gets a bad rap. ...   Sep 9 2010, 7:56 pm
OutToDry   I actually think "SFBM" gets a bad rap....   Sep 9 2010, 8:16 pm
jaybb   Wings is a good song. I like Night of Nights and...   Sep 10 2010, 1:04 am
imheyjude   I sort of like Sofia. I think it could have been ...   Sep 10 2010, 1:44 am
LiveRoCkS77   I was giving V a spin last night and it really st...   Sep 9 2010, 10:46 pm
Bremang   To me, Ed is a hypocrit for a very simple reaso...   Sep 10 2010, 1:28 am
LiveRoCkS77   I agree that his new music is crappy and that it ...   Sep 10 2010, 6:45 pm
Bremang   Not going to say it again dude, basic common se...   Sep 10 2010, 7:18 pm
LiveRoCkS77   Common sense tells me to not rule out things that...   Sep 11 2010, 3:25 pm
briburge   [quote name='LiveRoCkS77' date='Sep 11...   Sep 11 2010, 5:29 pm
Bremang   It is also a GREAT and very LIKELY possibility ...   Sep 11 2010, 7:51 pm
LiveRoCkS77   If you agree that you don't want to give exam...   Sep 13 2010, 11:58 am
Bremang   You asked me for examples of how Ed was being di...   Sep 13 2010, 8:32 pm
Wambangalang   I would not give him five dollars for food if he ...   Sep 10 2010, 12:52 am
Chelsea   Yep, "Sofia" is decent, too.   Sep 10 2010, 7:55 am
OutToDry   Can't say it any better than that +1000000   Sep 10 2010, 6:50 pm
Wambangalang   One thing is for fucking sure and that is that ...   Sep 10 2010, 8:11 pm
Aitkens   This was a recent quote from Ed. It flat out di...   Sep 12 2010, 10:54 am
Bremang   This was a recent quote from Ed. It flat out d...   Sep 12 2010, 5:32 pm
briburge   This was a recent quote from Ed. It flat out dis...   Sep 12 2010, 6:21 pm
Aitkens   oh great one, how much time is enough for you for...   Sep 12 2010, 7:05 pm
LiveRoCkS77   oh great one, how much time is enough for you for...   Sep 13 2010, 12:03 pm
briburge   Coming from a guy who assumes I'm getting ang...   Sep 14 2010, 2:48 pm
Bremang   It is debatable that Ed turned his back on CCP, an...   Sep 12 2010, 7:22 pm
Aitkens   It is debatable that Ed turned his back on CCP, a...   Sep 12 2010, 7:25 pm
Bremang   If Ed asked for an ultimatum, or wanted to control...   Sep 12 2010, 7:52 pm
Aitkens   If Ed asked for an ultimatum, or wanted to contro...   Sep 12 2010, 7:54 pm
Bremang   At least I don't assume like you do   Sep 12 2010, 9:06 pm
Aitkens   At least I don't assume like you do There ...   Sep 12 2010, 9:14 pm
Bremang   I just call it as I see it, and right now I see a ...   Sep 12 2010, 9:24 pm
EF341SC   wow this is pritty heated i will keep my point of ...   Oct 6 2010, 10:51 am
Hoodstock   wow this is pritty heated i will keep my point of...   Oct 6 2010, 3:21 pm
Sonic Tonic   It hasn't been heated since Sept 14 lol.   Oct 6 2010, 11:01 am
EF341SC   DOH!!!! did i just respark the fir...   Oct 6 2010, 11:19 am
brett   DOH!!!! did i just respark the fi...   Oct 6 2010, 11:52 am
Existentialist   DOH!!!! did i just respark the fi...   Oct 6 2010, 11:56 am
EF341SC   I am me I dont post much but spend a bit of time ...   Oct 7 2010, 3:29 am
livefan1999   I am me I dont post much but spend a bit of time...   Oct 7 2010, 10:45 pm
livefan1999   DOH!!!! did i just respark the fi...   Oct 6 2010, 12:24 pm
Wambangalang   Ed's alledged douchebaggery is soo late 2009/e...   Oct 6 2010, 7:44 pm
Bremang   i predict more heat   Oct 6 2010, 9:36 pm
OutToDry   Heat from who Bre? You wont get it from me, don...   Oct 7 2010, 10:13 pm


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