Alive - How do you feel about it now?, A new poll. Options

[SinfulEyes]

Now that most of you have had and listened to this album for a few weeks now, what is your impression of it?

[Pokey]

But it's true though. Like I've said before, the big difference is the music from TGF envokes imagery. It creates little film clips in my head. I've said before that Honest Man is hard times in Belfast Northern Ireland, Tredecim is the ocean and storms with rising waves and a dead beach. There's a picture of a somber looking beach on the inside of Rammstein's "sehnsucht" album cover that for some reason comes to mind. TGF make me think these things. When I hear Eds music I just see him with a big goofy smile and that's about it. It just doesn't evoke imagery. There's no substance to the music itself. If you removed Eds vocals and made them karaoke tracks then you'd have some really bland stuff.

[SJN1279]

But it's true though. Like I've said before, the big difference is the music from TGF envokes imagery. It creates little film clips in my head.

There are pills that can help control that. Ask Ex, he knows more about it than I do.

[Pokey]

There are pills that can help control that. Ask Ex, he knows more about it than I do.

You're an idiot. I know this is your attempt at being funny but it just goes to show your lack of imagination and creative thinking and that goes hand in hand with the blandness that Ed supplys which you love.
But fair enough..

Ex - dude help me! I'm experiencing emotion and passion through music. I'm feeling inspired and stimulated mentally by music. This surely isn't normal. Help me see music purely through economic eyes!

This post has been edited by Pokey: Aug 30 2010, 1:19 pm

[SJN1279]

You're an idiot. I know this is your attempt at being funny but it just goes to show your lack of imagination and creative thinking and that goes hand in hand with the blandness that Ed supplys which you love.

Whatever dude. I just think you need to lighten up a bit. I also don't get your obsession with me. You mention me in at least 50 percent of your posts, and I hardly ever mention you at all. It is borderline creepy.

[Pokey]

Whatever dude. I just think you need to lighten up a bit. I also don't get your obsession with me. You mention me in at least 50 percent of your posts, and I hardly ever mention you at all. It is borderline creepy.

Dude don't talk creepy with your stalking habits. I'm plenty lightend up. That's my point, TGF does that for me. Ed in all of his positivity doesn't. I'm glad you don't mention me in 50% of your posts. I obviously don't chart well enough
However my mentioning of you is because you embody almost all I dislike in a "music fan", it's not always you but you represent a group or collective of like minded people. I should start saying "the nicks of the world" then to be more correct.

[SJN1279]

Dude don't talk creepy with your stalking habits. I'm plenty lightend up. That's my point, TGF does that for me. Ed in all of his positivity doesn't. I'm glad you don't mention me in 50% of your posts. I obviously don't chart well enough
However my mentioning of you is because you embody almost all I dislike in a "music fan", it's not always you but you represent a group or collective of like minded people. I should start saying "the nicks of the world" then to be more correct.

Just because certain people have different musical tastes from you, doesn't make what they like inferior.

[Pokey]

Just because certain people have different musical tastes from you, doesn't make what they like inferior.

I'm well aware of that. There's plenty of music out there that I don't like that I can still respect. I can't respect Ed, which has nothing to do with the legal side of things (that's a whole different matter). I've pointed out heaps of times why he's inferior. And the frustrating part of that is that I held him previously in extremely high regard. So I'm well aware that just because I don't like something doesn't make it terrible. But in this case I believe it is.

[SJN1279]

I'm well aware of that. There's plenty of music out there that I don't like that I can still respect. I can't respect Ed, which has nothing to do with the legal side of things (that's a whole different matter). I've pointed out heaps of times why he's inferior. And the frustrating part of that is that I held him previously in extremely high regard. So I'm well aware that just because I don't like something doesn't make it terrible. But in this case I believe it is.

That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Just as I am entitled to dislike the musical direction that TGF chose for their debut album.

This post has been edited by SJN1279: Aug 30 2010, 1:46 pm

[Pokey]

That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it.  Just as I am entitled to dislike the musical direction that TGF chose for their debut album.

I'm sure we've gone over this. Of course you are entitled to dislike it. If Alive was the first we'd heard of Ed and he'd never been apart of Live then his work now wouldn't be half as bad to me. I mean I still wouldn't like it but I'd just put it down to him being some chump. But it's the fall from grace (no pun) which is such a huge part. TGF isn't your style, but can you say that the musicianship has been a big drop off from Live? Can you say that the songs are more poorly constructed? My point is that we dislike them for different reasons and come from different places. You never seemed to put too much importance on CCP, you said there was no noticeable drop off when they left. To me Ed was an idol at one stage. You have to appreciate and understand where some of us are coming from. 
Either way, my point was more so that I don't have a superiority complex and I don't think that if you don't like the same music I do that you are wrong or whatever. Ed is just a special case. I don't respect him anymore as an artist, performer or person. It's different because at once I felt the opposite.