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SinfulEyes
post Aug 29 2010, 3:45 pm
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Now that most of you have had and listened to this album for a few weeks now, what is your impression of it?


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while i cant honestly say i hate it by any measure, i sure as hell cant say i love it...it has its moments


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post Aug 30 2010, 8:18 am
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Basically, I stopped listening to it after I gave it a few tries.

The album is full of songs with a melody and chorus that make it sound like a Rick Springfield album from the 1980's - but about loving Jesus instead of some girl.

The lyrics remind me of the poems I was forced to write in second grade English class. Those forced verses where I was trying to draw on my simple second grade concepts and find words that rhyme. But half the lyrics don't even fit within the metering of the songs - resulting in people accidentally thinking that he is singing about a child asleep at the wheel.

Ed is playing near me with his band and I am not at all interested in going.

I just don't care about this album anymore.

Meanwhile, I listen to the 3 or 4 tracks from TGF that I have heard, and the other tracks that I can hear from the Fat Daddy bootlegs, and I can literally feel the hair growing on my chest and my gonads getting larger.


Here's the difference between Ed and TGF. It is plain and simple:

Alive sounds like it was written by a lyricist and a vocalist, and the songs were pushed from the "top down", for lack of a better word. The music just backs up the featured vocals. None of the instruments get their own place or purpose in the songs. I mean, can you imagine T.B.D. getting written by Ed now, the way he writes songs. That bass line makes the song. You need the bassist in the songwriting process, to put all the pieces together. The top down approach makes the songs uninteresting and uninspired. That is what the last 2 Live albums sounded like. And it sounds like it did not originate from some deep creative well as an artistic expression of music that Ed wanted to make. Rather, it sounds like it was aimed to hit a specific commercial target. It was aimed to sound popular and catchy and to appeal to a target audience. It sounds like Ed trying to be like Daughtry. Or Christian Rock. Or Kings of Leon. Or Katie Perry. It sounds like Ed was trying to make music that is what people want to hear and music is funny that way - I can't tell you how I can tell when music is organic and when it is contrived, but I can tell.

TGF sounds like it was written by a drummer, and guitarist, a bassist, and a singer - together. It sounds like it came from the "bottom up". Like the way old Live used to sound. The four parts - drums, bass, guitars and vocals/lyrics, all work together and are compatable and support each other. Each has it's own purpose and owns part of the songs. And it sounds like music that was sitting deep within the souls of the members of this band, waiting to be found, dusted off, polished, nurtured and shown to the world. It sounds organic. It doesn't sound like they made something for people to like. They made something that came from inside them, and they hope people like what they did.


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SinfulEyes   Alive - How do you feel about it now?   Aug 29 2010, 3:45 pm
SinfulEyes   Now that most of you have had and listened to thi...   Aug 29 2010, 3:47 pm
eargirl   How about adding a third option....it's alrigh...   Aug 29 2010, 5:31 pm
Badman   How about adding a third option....it's alrig...   Aug 30 2010, 12:53 pm
Merica   I voted that i hated it but it doesn't feel l...   Aug 30 2010, 1:09 pm
OutToDry   Bravo Fish, bravo. ALways well written and indisp...   Aug 30 2010, 8:46 am
Pokey   Great post fish! You're spot on. I just wi...   Aug 30 2010, 10:34 am
FishOutaWater   Great post fish! You're spot on. I just w...   Aug 30 2010, 12:07 pm
Pokey   This goes to the very issue of the lawsuit and th...   Aug 30 2010, 12:35 pm
LivesMeltdown   I like it and probably enjoy it more now than when...   Aug 30 2010, 10:49 am
SecretInsomnia   I don't think Ed likes the whole recording p...   Aug 30 2010, 1:06 pm
LivesMeltdown   although I fully agree with you post overall, I d...   Aug 30 2010, 2:39 pm
TheBeacon   Oh, did it? I'm sure though that they took q...   Aug 30 2010, 2:49 pm
Hoodstock   I'm on record saying I like the record. There...   Aug 30 2010, 7:12 pm
Nobody Knows   Which album? I honestly don't even know where ...   Aug 30 2010, 11:36 am
+Ed+   I must admit, I spun Alive pretty much in the unde...   Aug 30 2010, 12:11 pm
Merica   Hey Fishy, if you ever fancy a blow job - I'm ...   Aug 30 2010, 12:11 pm
FishOutaWater   Hey Fishy, if you ever fancy a blow job - I'm...   Aug 30 2010, 12:18 pm
SinfulEyes   :omg: Ha Ha!!!!! I just sp...   Aug 30 2010, 2:29 pm
+Ed+   You maybe are stating the obvious, Fish, but you d...   Aug 30 2010, 12:20 pm
Pokey   But it's true though. Like I've said befor...   Aug 30 2010, 12:26 pm
SJN1279   But it's true though. Like I've said befo...   Aug 30 2010, 1:00 pm
Pokey   There are pills that can help control that. Ask ...   Aug 30 2010, 1:12 pm
SJN1279   You're an idiot. I know this is your attempt ...   Aug 30 2010, 1:17 pm
Pokey   Whatever dude. I just think you need to lighten ...   Aug 30 2010, 1:25 pm
SJN1279   Dude don't talk creepy with your stalking hab...   Aug 30 2010, 1:29 pm
Pokey   Just because certain people have different musica...   Aug 30 2010, 1:36 pm
SJN1279   I'm well aware of that. There's plenty of...   Aug 30 2010, 1:45 pm
Pokey   That's your opinion, and you are entitled to ...   Aug 30 2010, 2:09 pm
SinfulEyes   That's your opinion, and you are entitled to ...   Aug 30 2010, 2:34 pm
SinfulEyes   I am quite surprised that many of you voted that y...   Aug 30 2010, 2:38 pm
dangum   Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word hate. ...   Aug 30 2010, 8:21 pm
SJN1279   Sure. I've changed the option from "Hate...   Aug 30 2010, 8:25 pm
dangum   Then you should change Love it to Like it to make...   Aug 30 2010, 8:38 pm
SinfulEyes   There are pills that can help control that. Ask ...   Aug 30 2010, 2:31 pm
+Ed+   But it's true though. Like I've said befo...   Aug 30 2010, 1:34 pm
Nobody Knows   :omg: Ha Ha!!!!! I just sp...   Aug 30 2010, 3:04 pm
SinfulEyes   That would make Ned a dead horse?? :eyebrow: ...   Aug 30 2010, 5:15 pm
OutToDry   Eat You Love still rocks   Aug 30 2010, 8:28 pm
Wambangalang   i hate it how love it is now like it and love it t...   Aug 30 2010, 9:19 pm
Pokey   I think "like it" should be "tickle...   Aug 30 2010, 10:23 pm
Wambangalang   I think "like it" should be "tickl...   Aug 31 2010, 2:27 am
Hoodstock   Maybe would should also add "Meh" for th...   Aug 31 2010, 11:54 am
OutToDry   I know that I should think about giving and think ...   Aug 31 2010, 9:49 pm
jayda   I've played it quite a bit - trying to get my ...   Sep 2 2010, 7:05 am
Merica   I'm definitely somewhere in between, leaning t...   Sep 2 2010, 7:11 am
beau99   It's not very good, and if you remember I was ...   Sep 3 2010, 7:50 am
Chelsea   I wanted to fall in love with both albums. I have...   Sep 3 2010, 11:19 pm
OutToDry   In Alive's first week, & second weeks when...   Sep 6 2010, 6:37 pm
SJN1279   In Alive's first week, & second weeks whe...   Sep 6 2010, 6:42 pm
OutToDry   Where did you get the info? My feeling is tha...   Sep 6 2010, 6:51 pm
SJN1279   If you had a brain, you'd be able to find it ...   Sep 6 2010, 7:01 pm
OutToDry   Ed's album was hard to find in most stores, ...   Sep 6 2010, 7:05 pm
SJN1279   TGF got EMI to distribute. I am positive it wi...   Sep 6 2010, 7:12 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Ed's album was hard to find in most stores, a...   Sep 6 2010, 8:12 pm
dangum   In Alive's first week, & second weeks whe...   Sep 6 2010, 8:05 pm
OutToDry   Can somebody explain these figures to me? What d...   Sep 6 2010, 8:08 pm
dangum   I think the 77 might be sales in the week. Still...   Sep 6 2010, 11:41 pm
OutToDry   No comments on the sales #'s mr marketer?   Sep 6 2010, 7:54 pm
SJN1279   No comments on the sales #'s mr marketer? O...   Sep 6 2010, 8:01 pm
OutToDry   So with that being said, You can spout that TGF f...   Sep 6 2010, 8:06 pm
SJN1279   So with that being said, You can spout that TGF ...   Sep 6 2010, 8:10 pm
OutToDry   When did I say that? Actually you didn...   Sep 6 2010, 8:13 pm
SJN1279   Actually you didn't, I apologize, but the thi...   Sep 7 2010, 7:05 am
LiveRoCkS77   Grace has grown into a huge hit single in Austra...   Sep 8 2010, 4:41 pm
SJN1279   HUH??? Biggest since Throwing Copper??? REALLY? I...   Sep 8 2010, 5:54 pm
SinfulEyes   The single "Grace" has charted better o...   Sep 8 2010, 6:22 pm
jayda   The single "Grace" has charted better o...   Sep 8 2010, 8:13 pm
LiveRoCkS77   The single "Grace" has charted better o...   Sep 8 2010, 10:39 pm
OutToDry   Can he hold his US Audience? I've never disp...   Sep 7 2010, 7:14 am
Sonic Tonic   Guys, stop fueling this bottom feeder with debates...   Sep 7 2010, 8:08 am
GraciousLivEddieK?   fish and pokey, right on. I still listen to the al...   Sep 8 2010, 9:20 pm
+Ed+   The single "Grace" has charted better o...   Sep 9 2010, 5:24 am
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