Ed's Bootlegs (inc. Supreme Court summons), not so legal after all? Options

[OutToDry]

I've been searching for public notes on what may be happening in the courtroom, here's one of them. I suspect the selling of bootlegs on Ed's website are not legal as they appear.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/05/18/New_Complaints.htm

Rock and RollThree members of the band Live claim their former lead singer Edward Kowalczyk owes them $225,000 for music he sold on his Web site, in New York County Court.

This post has been edited by OutToDry: Jun 14 2010, 2:59 pm

[Bremang]

Still gotta love how everyone who loves Ed's music see's him as a non guilty party. I'd love to see someone say they think his music is great but he's a complete ass for this whole thing. I don't think it works so much the other way, i'd say Fish is probably one of the most unbias people on the board and even he can smell the roses.

The whole "lets not bring Ed's interviews and spirituality into the picture here, this is legal stuff!" is bullshit and just a cop out way of circumventing the point that a few people are making that they believe Ed is a shitheel. It may not have anything directly to do with the legal stuff, but it still ties in in a broader way and that fact that it seems so contradictory is why people question it. I've seen people who support Ed here throw things around like "people have already just taken sides here", the fact that Ed has gone on talking about the brotherhood and could never make it without the boys and how they're different from so many other bands because they are a cohesieve unit and then come out with shit like this which is basically a slap in the face to the other 3 for the help they've given Ed to be able to enjoy the life he has now ... these are reasons some of us are taking sides. We're not pulling things out of our asses, we're basing this on information available and making our own choice into how we see this.

The whole "but you dont know that for sure!!" is bullshit, if no one could form an opinion on something without knowing absolutely 100% sure of every detail then we'd have very few opinions around. You could easily say that you guys don't know 100% for sure that Ed is innocent of everything so forming an opinion to give him the benefit of the doubt is just as mute.
You can argue the innocent until proven guilty, in the eyes of the law that's true. But a lot of people here have had a sour taste in their mouth from Ed a long time before any legal stuff popped up so regardless of whether hes proven innocent or guilty i doubt that will change.

There are very few on this board who love Eds new music (I sure don't), so that's probably not a large enough distribution to conclude anything about a group as seeing Ed as not guilty.

Everyone saying that Ed is a shitheel in this recent leg of the discussion has been in reaction or response to his court response. I don't see anyone who decided to hate on Ed here not in a general sense without relating specifically to the rebuttal.

In regards to taking sides, the main thing that some members of the board might have been opposed to in regards to negative views on Ed in relation to the rebuttal has been the idea that Ed didn't necessarily write it, and both sides may have been exaggerating. Not the situation you describe.

To bring up all of Ed's brotherhood talk is retrospective, to say this is a slap in the face to the band doesn't consider everything leading up to this point or again the fact that it isn't necessarily Ed's voice.

In this case, not knowing something for sure is very relevant as the opposing sides contrast immensely.

There is an overwhelming amount of talk which hates on Ed which neither specific, and often irrational. I hardly hear someone talk bad about Ed that doesn't state anything more than simple name calling, or saying that he screwed over the guys. Very little of it comes from actual knowledge of what has transpired. Such a little amount of the Ed hating has been debated rationally to the point of conclusion.

I disagree also in that I hadn't seen a good deal of Ed hating until the breakup/legal issues. People were mostly hopeful.