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post Aug 20 2010, 11:33 pm
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Anyone else think this whole debate is as asinine as I do? It isn't at Ground Zero and it isn't a Mosque.

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post Aug 23 2010, 8:41 am
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I maintain that there is no way to oppose this without condemning all of Islam as a result of the actions of few.

Itchy, I don't think anyone is trying to dismiss what happened to families on that day. The point is that there were Muslim families ripped apart as well. Just because the men who led the attacks were Muslims does not mean that they had the support of all Muslims, not at all! The whole religion should not be held accountable by the actions of its extremists.

I agree with those who have said that the idea of building there was somewhat foolish. I could have told them that Americans weren't ready to separate Muslim and terrorist. That said, they are doing it and the constitution allows it. Religious freedom has been shit on enough lately (see: the cross and the Buddhist shrine in the national park supreme court ruling) and it is time for that to stop.

As for the whores, that is a reference to the "Ground Zero Strip Club" which resides just as far from the site as this community center would.


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QUOTE(thefunkyredcaboose @ Aug 23 2010, 8:41 am) *

I maintain that there is no way to oppose this without condemning all of Islam as a result of the actions of few.

Itchy, I don't think anyone is trying to dismiss what happened to families on that day. The point is that there were Muslim families ripped apart as well. Just because the men who led the attacks were Muslims does not mean that they had the support of all Muslims, not at all! The whole religion should not be held accountable by the actions of its extremists.

I agree with those who have said that the idea of building there was somewhat foolish. I could have told them that Americans weren't ready to separate Muslim and terrorist. That said, they are doing it and the constitution allows it. Religious freedom has been shit on enough lately (see: the cross and the Buddhist shrine in the national park supreme court ruling) and it is time for that to stop.

As for the whores, that is a reference to the "Ground Zero Strip Club" which resides just as far from the site as this community center would.

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thefunkyredcaboose   "Ground Zero Mosque"   Aug 20 2010, 11:33 pm
Wambangalang   yeh this particular issue is pretty silly. Howeve...   Aug 21 2010, 1:10 am
Badman   However i think americans (and the rest of the ...   Aug 22 2010, 6:02 pm
Sakhmet2   Wait, Christianity or Islam? Knowing Hitchens, h...   Aug 22 2010, 8:15 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Knowing Hitchens, he means both - and Judaism too...   Aug 22 2010, 8:34 pm
Sakhmet2   I'm not so sure that religion is as much to b...   Aug 22 2010, 9:04 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   It depends on what you mean by outrageous. My las...   Aug 22 2010, 10:54 pm
Badman   Hitchens point is that one line of text in one b...   Aug 22 2010, 11:29 pm
+Ed+   Whats up with it? NEver heard anything   Aug 21 2010, 4:11 am
VoodooLady   it is both asinine and fucking shameful.. Americ...   Aug 21 2010, 9:51 am
Hoodstock   I've got no problem with it. Terrorists blew ...   Aug 21 2010, 10:12 pm
Nobody Knows   Hoodie is right. Is this Dutch politician still go...   Aug 22 2010, 5:20 am
GraciousLivEddieK?   There are definitely far too many bigots who are i...   Aug 22 2010, 4:47 pm
Sakhmet2   The reason being this is not a first amendment is...   Aug 22 2010, 5:31 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   There are definitely far too many bigots who are ...   Aug 22 2010, 8:28 pm
Wambangalang   i think religion should be dismissed entirely. I t...   Aug 22 2010, 11:27 pm
Sakhmet2   If there is a higher power it doesnt care if you...   Aug 23 2010, 6:09 am
sh4rpz   I read about this a few months back. Can I just as...   Aug 23 2010, 6:48 am
Sakhmet2   I read about this a few months back. Can I just a...   Aug 23 2010, 7:19 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   1. as said above, it's not a "mosque...   Aug 23 2010, 7:31 am
Sakhmet2   Last I checked, there is also a mosque at the loc...   Aug 23 2010, 7:46 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   It kind of does. Just like a prayer room in a Y...   Aug 23 2010, 7:52 am
thefunkyredcaboose   At the same time, no one goes around calling the ...   Aug 23 2010, 8:44 am
Sakhmet2   Westerners, stop being "useful idiots"....   Aug 23 2010, 10:08 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   Yes, but that doesn't give the media the free...   Aug 23 2010, 12:24 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I would point out that proponents of the project,...   Aug 23 2010, 1:06 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   Anyone calling it a mosque is inaccurate, no matt...   Aug 23 2010, 9:31 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Did you miss the link to the actual Park51 site w...   Aug 23 2010, 10:12 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   The point is that the structure isn't just a ...   Aug 24 2010, 1:05 am
thefunkyredcaboose   I would ask whether you've seen the news repo...   Aug 24 2010, 8:15 am
sh4rpz   I think that bolded statement is what is most tru...   Aug 25 2010, 5:07 am
Sakhmet2   In the end, I have respect for the people who wer...   Aug 25 2010, 9:16 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   In the end, I have respect for the people who wer...   Aug 25 2010, 11:54 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   Yes, but that doesn't give the media the free...   Aug 23 2010, 12:32 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   I read about this a few months back. Can I just a...   Aug 23 2010, 7:30 am
Sakhmet2   That's about right. Though in terms of city ...   Aug 23 2010, 7:39 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   I am not casually dismissing this at all. I thin...   Aug 23 2010, 7:49 am
Sakhmet2   Whose political purposes? It sure as heck isn...   Aug 23 2010, 8:04 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   As Pat Buchanan said, the political opportunism o...   Aug 23 2010, 8:18 am
Sakhmet2   Pat Buchanan is a religious extremist himself. D...   Aug 23 2010, 8:27 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   Just because a pot calls a kettle black doesn...   Aug 23 2010, 8:40 am
sh4rpz   That's about right. Though in terms of city ...   Aug 23 2010, 7:45 am
sh4rpz   Thanks for the info Sakhmet2. I come from an Isl...   Aug 23 2010, 7:36 am
GraciousLivEddieK?   Hey. How 'bout this: http://www.youtube.com/w...   Aug 23 2010, 8:06 am
Sakhmet2   Hey. How 'bout this: http://www.youtube.com/...   Aug 23 2010, 8:10 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   I maintain that there is no way to oppose this wi...   Aug 23 2010, 12:12 pm
sh4rpz   And I've already said they have every legal r...   Aug 24 2010, 1:36 am
GraciousLivEddieK?   Westerners, stop being "useful idiots". ...   Aug 23 2010, 9:28 am
thefunkyredcaboose   Westerners, stop being "useful idiots"....   Aug 23 2010, 9:48 am
thefunkyredcaboose   Well, we solved this one I'll say. Cheers to ...   Aug 25 2010, 3:32 pm


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