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post Aug 20 2010, 11:33 pm
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Anyone else think this whole debate is as asinine as I do? It isn't at Ground Zero and it isn't a Mosque.

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post Aug 23 2010, 7:36 am
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Thanks for the info Sakhmet2.

I come from an Islamic background, and I can tell you that my 1st thoughts when I read about the proposed building and the site, was that it would just bring about a series of problems based on misinterpretation and misunderstanding.

I could understand what those involved in the development were trying to achieve, but I was still wary of the sensitivity which surrounded the context and the nature of the building (this was before you cleared up the fact that it is indeed not a mosque at all).

I have been made aware by friends, both Muslim and non-Muslim who live in NYC, that there are mosques already in the proximity of downtown Manhatten, so I questioned the need for a new one, let alone one at Ground Zero.

But now that you guys have cleared my understanding with some facts regarding this issue, I look on it differently. I did already agree with a lot of what has been said especially by funkyredcaboose, who has it nailed on the head.

I think it is important to educate and derive some kind of understanding amongst people who still see Islam as part of a terrorist regime. I think it is important to remember that all Muslims aren't terrorists. The article I posted above has some key quotes:

"I'm very much in favor of religious tolerance. I don't believe that the 19 people who flew those planes, and the people who supported them represent Islam," - http://abcnews.go.com/WN/president-obama-s...11401964&page=2

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"Our enemies respect no freedom of religion. Al Qaeda's cause is not Islam -- it is a gross distortion of Islam," he said. "These are not religious leaders -- these are terrorists who murder innocent men, women and children. In fact, al Qaeda has killed more Muslims than people of any other religion -- and that list of victims includes innocent Muslims who were killed on 9/11."



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thefunkyredcaboose   "Ground Zero Mosque"   Aug 20 2010, 11:33 pm
Wambangalang   yeh this particular issue is pretty silly. Howeve...   Aug 21 2010, 1:10 am
Badman   However i think americans (and the rest of the ...   Aug 22 2010, 6:02 pm
Sakhmet2   Wait, Christianity or Islam? Knowing Hitchens, h...   Aug 22 2010, 8:15 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Knowing Hitchens, he means both - and Judaism too...   Aug 22 2010, 8:34 pm
Sakhmet2   I'm not so sure that religion is as much to b...   Aug 22 2010, 9:04 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   It depends on what you mean by outrageous. My las...   Aug 22 2010, 10:54 pm
Badman   Hitchens point is that one line of text in one b...   Aug 22 2010, 11:29 pm
+Ed+   Whats up with it? NEver heard anything   Aug 21 2010, 4:11 am
VoodooLady   it is both asinine and fucking shameful.. Americ...   Aug 21 2010, 9:51 am
Hoodstock   I've got no problem with it. Terrorists blew ...   Aug 21 2010, 10:12 pm
Nobody Knows   Hoodie is right. Is this Dutch politician still go...   Aug 22 2010, 5:20 am
GraciousLivEddieK?   There are definitely far too many bigots who are i...   Aug 22 2010, 4:47 pm
Sakhmet2   The reason being this is not a first amendment is...   Aug 22 2010, 5:31 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   There are definitely far too many bigots who are ...   Aug 22 2010, 8:28 pm
Wambangalang   i think religion should be dismissed entirely. I t...   Aug 22 2010, 11:27 pm
Sakhmet2   If there is a higher power it doesnt care if you...   Aug 23 2010, 6:09 am
sh4rpz   I read about this a few months back. Can I just as...   Aug 23 2010, 6:48 am
Sakhmet2   I read about this a few months back. Can I just a...   Aug 23 2010, 7:19 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   1. as said above, it's not a "mosque...   Aug 23 2010, 7:31 am
Sakhmet2   Last I checked, there is also a mosque at the loc...   Aug 23 2010, 7:46 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   It kind of does. Just like a prayer room in a Y...   Aug 23 2010, 7:52 am
thefunkyredcaboose   At the same time, no one goes around calling the ...   Aug 23 2010, 8:44 am
Sakhmet2   Westerners, stop being "useful idiots"....   Aug 23 2010, 10:08 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   Yes, but that doesn't give the media the free...   Aug 23 2010, 12:24 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I would point out that proponents of the project,...   Aug 23 2010, 1:06 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   Anyone calling it a mosque is inaccurate, no matt...   Aug 23 2010, 9:31 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Did you miss the link to the actual Park51 site w...   Aug 23 2010, 10:12 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   The point is that the structure isn't just a ...   Aug 24 2010, 1:05 am
thefunkyredcaboose   I would ask whether you've seen the news repo...   Aug 24 2010, 8:15 am
sh4rpz   I think that bolded statement is what is most tru...   Aug 25 2010, 5:07 am
Sakhmet2   In the end, I have respect for the people who wer...   Aug 25 2010, 9:16 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   In the end, I have respect for the people who wer...   Aug 25 2010, 11:54 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   Yes, but that doesn't give the media the free...   Aug 23 2010, 12:32 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   I read about this a few months back. Can I just a...   Aug 23 2010, 7:30 am
Sakhmet2   That's about right. Though in terms of city ...   Aug 23 2010, 7:39 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   I am not casually dismissing this at all. I thin...   Aug 23 2010, 7:49 am
Sakhmet2   Whose political purposes? It sure as heck isn...   Aug 23 2010, 8:04 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   As Pat Buchanan said, the political opportunism o...   Aug 23 2010, 8:18 am
Sakhmet2   Pat Buchanan is a religious extremist himself. D...   Aug 23 2010, 8:27 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   Just because a pot calls a kettle black doesn...   Aug 23 2010, 8:40 am
sh4rpz   That's about right. Though in terms of city ...   Aug 23 2010, 7:45 am
GraciousLivEddieK?   Hey. How 'bout this: http://www.youtube.com/w...   Aug 23 2010, 8:06 am
Sakhmet2   Hey. How 'bout this: http://www.youtube.com/...   Aug 23 2010, 8:10 am
thefunkyredcaboose   I maintain that there is no way to oppose this wit...   Aug 23 2010, 8:41 am
sh4rpz   I maintain that there is no way to oppose this wi...   Aug 23 2010, 9:51 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   I maintain that there is no way to oppose this wi...   Aug 23 2010, 12:12 pm
sh4rpz   And I've already said they have every legal r...   Aug 24 2010, 1:36 am
GraciousLivEddieK?   Westerners, stop being "useful idiots". ...   Aug 23 2010, 9:28 am
thefunkyredcaboose   Westerners, stop being "useful idiots"....   Aug 23 2010, 9:48 am
thefunkyredcaboose   Well, we solved this one I'll say. Cheers to ...   Aug 25 2010, 3:32 pm


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