Thoughts on "Honest Man" and "Believe", One Song - Two Versions Options

[Hoodstock]

You guys do realize that music from "Honest Man" by TGF comes from the song "Believe" by Live.

Just give it a listen:

Honest Man: http://new.music.yahoo.com/videos/gracious...-man--218696430

Believe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZqT0stibWs

New lyrics - same base song . Ed had his chance with it and then Kevin (or the band) redid the song.

I wish I had a studio version of Believe to directly compare the two vocal performances. I prefer the lyrics of Honest Man but I would have loved to hear this as a Live song.

This post has been edited by Hoodstock: Aug 3 2010, 7:54 am

[Pokey]

Yeah the fact that CT has said he was sitting on this riff for years must have meant he wanted to work it into Live somehow probably since BOP. The fact the setlist started to change to add songs that didn't seem to reflect what Ed was writing at the time and then this coming up .. it leads me to believe that CT and the guys must have started pushing hard to write again with Ed. My guess is that CT went to Ed with the riff for believe and they tried to work something out for Ed to put lyrics to it, like the old days. However the song has always sounded disjointed to me ... the lyrics just don't fit. I imagine Ed wasn't happiest doing that so under the circumstances it just didn't work .. half the band had one vision and Ed had another and the song was a bit of a mess.
Ed wanted "Just In Time" and "Stand" .. CT and the guys wanted "Honest Man" and "Closer". So not surprising the song just seemed to disappear quickly and die. For the best really.