LIVE vs. the perception of SFBM Options

[flaterik]

There is a lot of talk going on about pop or not pop, old vs. new LIVE, etc. I for one am a bit disappointed in the finished product of the SFBM album, but now I realize why. I had heard some early versions of some of the new songs (don't know where ) and saw the boyz play some of the new stuff in New Jersey last November and I was stoked. Then I got my hands on the disk and...well... it tasted like a British Ale...flat and warm! Now on the weekend I saw the Rockpalast broadcast and WHAMO!! It was clear. I always knew the new songs were good (ok, average by LIVE standards, but still light years ahead of standard radio trash ), but the production on the album and the overzealous "accoustic version" marketing just killed them. Made them flat. The songs have their moments but just don't go anywhere. When you see the new songs played in concert you will know what I mean. Totally different energy!!!!

Any thoughts!?

[FishOutaWater]

It's something about the thought of a 34 year old man dancing around singing "ooohhhh so I give you my love, it's all that I have to give!", "you get what you get with me girl", "my love is here to stay" and of course "Show a little love to me, i'll show you free tonight"

These are just a few lines and of course someone will jump out saying "but pokey, you're taking them out of context LOL" .. the fact is these are incredibly lame, cheesey lyrics you'd expect from a boy band who've just turned 18 .. not a man who has provided us with years of beautifuly amazing lyrics such as Ed has.

I have to agree with you there. I think there are some silly, sophmoric lines in the songs. I don't really care for Ed's hip-wiggling dance while he rubs his belly when they play the new songs in concert. I really don't like Show, or Mystery and I'm sorry those are the songs the band has chosen to play in concert. I agree that the meaning of the lyrics in Love Shines are straightforward, but I think they are beautiful and I really like the song. And The River lack balls, but I like it and think it's catchy.

But I think that there have been some corny lines on many of the albums. I think Secret Smadhi is full of them. Hunting deer... puke stinks like beer... merica has dropped her load. I could go on and on. Many lines on TDTH are straight forward. They Stood Up For Love is a fantastic song, but there aren't any double meanings to the lyrics - they say what they mean but they are beautiful - and the music is no more complex than Where Do We Go From Here or All I Need. I think people are being too hard on this album. I think it is really much better than BoP and on par with TDTH as far as the lyrics and music are concerned. I think people on this site who criticize SFBM are being closed-minded and biased by their own preconceptions, without even realizing it. If TDTH came out right now, and you had never heard it before, and it was produced by Jim Wirt, I think a lot of people on this site would say it absolutely sucks and it is silly.

[Pokey]

But I think that there have been some corny lines on many of the albums. I think Secret Smadhi is full of them. Hunting deer... puke stinks like beer... merica has dropped her load. I could go on and on. Many lines on TDTH are straight forward. They Stood Up For Love is a fantastic song, but there aren't any double meanings to the lyrics - they say what they mean but they are beautiful - and the music is no more complex than Where Do We Go From Here or All I Need. I think people are being too hard on this album. I think it is really much better than BoP and on par with TDTH as far as the lyrics and music are concerned. I think people on this site who criticize SFBM are being closed-minded and biased by their own preconceptions, without even realizing it. If TDTH came out right now, and you had never heard it before, and it was produced by Jim Wirt, I think a lot of people on this site would say it absolutely sucks and it is silly.

See I don't see it as being close minded .. I can't speak for everyone else who doesn't like it, but to me I was expecting something bad, and even that managed to disappoint me. I don't think that's close minded though, it simpley comes down to me absolutely not liking this album, I get no joy from it what so ever, if I liked it I'd have no problems saying so .. but I don't.

If TDTH came out right now I'd love it .. true, Jim Wirt would manage to stamp his dullness all over it which would bring it down a bit. But I find the songs themselves so much more interesting and the lyrics better .. there is nothing like a Where fishes go, or Voodoo Lady or even Face and Ghost (one of my all time favs) that uses the "la da da" thing, but it just seems to work there ... no, SFBM to me was a complete hit and miss.