LIVE vs. the perception of SFBM Options

[flaterik]

There is a lot of talk going on about pop or not pop, old vs. new LIVE, etc. I for one am a bit disappointed in the finished product of the SFBM album, but now I realize why. I had heard some early versions of some of the new songs (don't know where ) and saw the boyz play some of the new stuff in New Jersey last November and I was stoked. Then I got my hands on the disk and...well... it tasted like a British Ale...flat and warm! Now on the weekend I saw the Rockpalast broadcast and WHAMO!! It was clear. I always knew the new songs were good (ok, average by LIVE standards, but still light years ahead of standard radio trash ), but the production on the album and the overzealous "accoustic version" marketing just killed them. Made them flat. The songs have their moments but just don't go anywhere. When you see the new songs played in concert you will know what I mean. Totally different energy!!!!

Any thoughts!?

[Pokey]

It's something about the thought of a 34 year old man dancing around singing "ooohhhh so I give you my love, it's all that I have to give!", "you get what you get with me girl", "my love is here to stay" and of course "Show a little love to me, i'll show you free tonight"

These are just a few lines and of course someone will jump out saying "but pokey, you're taking them out of context LOL" .. the fact is these are incredibly lame, cheesey lyrics you'd expect from a boy band who've just turned 18 .. not a man who has provided us with years of beautifuly amazing lyrics such as Ed has.

There is just nothing profound about anything being said on this album, and if it is then it's an extremely watered down children's book version. Seriously kid's books can have nice messages to them but the way they are delivered is well, for children. That is pretty much where SFBM seems to be from, hell one of the songs IS written for children and the rest is no different from it.

You can go on about the beauty in the simplicity of the lyrics, and ok here and there, there are a nice couple of lines but besides that's about it.

Going into reading all these books and getting "insight" into the lyrics is kinda nuts, the lyrics are so simple you don't need any sort of insight to them. There isn't anything on this album that makes me think, or challenges me .. and I'm certainly not the smartest guy in the world so it shouldn't be too hard to do that, but it doesn't. The thing is, looking at all of Ed's interviews is like a complete contradiction .. he goes off on these tangents and people don't know WTF .. when you see things he's written even though I think it's a bunch of pompous crap, it at least sounds interesting. But then when he sits down to write it just turns into "ooo baby, stay with me tonight, girl you'll be alright!" ... I know that isn't one of the lyrics, but it might as well be. As Ed himself has said, these songs are mostly inspired by women, it's a album written by Ed's penis.

[serene23]

It's something about the thought of a 34 year old man dancing around singing "ooohhhh so I give you my love, it's all that I have to give!", "you get what you get with me girl", "my love is here to stay" and of course "Show a little love to me, i'll show you free tonight"

These are just a few lines and of course someone will jump out saying "but pokey, you're taking them out of context LOL" .. the fact is these are incredibly lame, cheesey lyrics you'd expect from a boy band who've just turned 18 .. not a man who has provided us with years of beautifuly amazing lyrics such as Ed has.

There is just nothing profound about anything being said on this album, and if it is then it's an extremely watered down children's book version. Seriously kid's books can have nice messages to them but the way they are delivered is well, for children. That is pretty much where SFBM seems to be from, hell one of the songs IS written for children and the rest is no different from it.

You can go on about the beauty in the simplicity of the lyrics, and ok here and there, there are a nice couple of lines but besides that's about it.

Going into reading all these books and getting "insight" into the lyrics is kinda nuts, the lyrics are so simple you don't need any sort of insight to them. There isn't anything on this album that makes me think, or challenges me .. and I'm certainly not the smartest guy in the world so it shouldn't be too hard to do that, but it doesn't. The thing is, looking at all of Ed's interviews is like a complete contradiction .. he goes off on these tangents and people don't know WTF .. when you see things he's written even though I think it's a bunch of pompous crap, it at least sounds interesting. But then when he sits down to write it just turns into "ooo baby, stay with me tonight, girl you'll be alright!" ... I know that isn't one of the lyrics, but it might as well be. As Ed himself has said, these songs are mostly inspired by women, it's a album written by Ed's penis.

Thats funny!!!! ANd pretty much true. I DO however like some of the vocals and there is some instrumental layering that I like if you listen hard, its in there, but lost in the mix. It needs to be remixed. I love "Show" despite the bad lyrics, though "black widow is a spider" is a very lame lyric. After more listening I think "Night of Nights" and "Where Do We Go From Here?" are the 2 best tracks. It is a shame that Ed no longer writes good lyrics. Though he hasn't since "TC" really. They have just become progressively worse. Cut out the "mommas" the "ooohhh child"s and the "baby"s. Maybe someone else sould have a go with lyrics, they couldn't get much worse. I mean, the melodies are there, it just needs better production and lyrics.

This post has been edited by serene23: Apr 28 2006, 5:57 pm